Seems they're out and about this morning.
Haven't seen Chrystia's pest, though. 
Posted on 03/20/2023 9:50:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
We overthrew the Ukrainian government in 2014, put in our own anti Russia puppet who started continuously shelling ethnic Russians in the Donbass and that shelling and murder persisted until the invasion.
WE CAUSED THIS. GET A CLUE.
Cease fire would reward the Russian invader, with conquered territory. Establishing precedent for future invaders. Invade, grab territory, call for ceasefire.
Which has been happening since the dawn of time, and will continue.
And if the world had done something, WW2 would have started a year earlier, big shit.
Sad to see how ignorant some FReepers are of history. German High Command was ready to arrest Hitler, when he ordered an attack on Czechoslovakia, if France and England threatened war.
But his order appalled the General Staff. They knew that an attack on Czechoslovakia might erupt into a war against Britain and France, and possibly even with Soviet Russia. The German Army at this time was not ready for such a war. It only had 31 fully armed divisions along with 7 reserve divisions. The French alone had over 100 divisions while the Czechs had 45 and a heavily fortified defense line along the Czech-German border.
To summarize all of the problems, General Ludwig Beck, Chief of the General Staff, wrote a detailed analysis of the pending military disaster if Germany attacked Czechoslovakia. Beck gave his report to General Walther von Brauchitsch, Commander-in-Chief of the Army, urging Brauchitsch to convene a secret conference of top generals to discuss the matter.
On August 4th, 1938, a secret Army meeting was indeed held. In the days that followed, Beck and Halder formed a group of conspirators consisting of several top generals, along with former diplomat Ulrich von Hassell, Admiral Wilhelm Canaris who was Chief of German Intelligence, and Berlin's Police Chief, Graf von Helldorf.
They hatched a plot to arrest Hitler the very moment he gave the actual invasion order. According to their plan, Berlin would be sealed off by special Army units to prevent the SS from interfering. Other units, aided by anti-Nazis in the Berlin Police, would seize important government buildings while top Nazis such as Göring, Goebbels and Himmler would be arrested. Assuming this all worked, Hitler would be hauled before a special court and charged with leading Germany toward a military disaster.
But there was one big if in this whole scenario. The plan would only work if both Britain and France maintained a belligerent attitude toward Hitler and made it known to the world that they would fight to preserve the little Czech Republic. This would serve to convince the German people that certain defeat awaited Germany if it attacked Czechoslovakia and would justify the overthrow of Hitler.
To insure that Britain and France understood how high the stakes were, the conspirators sent agents to England to secretly inform Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain that Hitler was planning to attack Czechoslovakia. They also informed the British of their intentions to overthrow Hitler and requested that both Britain and France adopt an openly aggressive stance toward Hitler.
However, major problems prevented this from happening. First, the messengers were not taken seriously by the British who found themselves unable to trust the same German Army which had been steadfastly aiding Hitler since his takeover of power in 1933. Secondly, Prime Minister Chamberlain had his own peace agenda in mind and was willing to negotiate to the hilt to prevent another European war.
https://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/triumph/tr-munich.htm
Seems they're out and about this morning.
Haven't seen Chrystia's pest, though.
Right, US invaded... US said Ukraine would join NATO maybe, someday, but WE CAUSED THIS Putin invasion of neighboring Ukraine. Okay
Xi is finessing Russia by holding sham talks resulting in no change.
China has the world as a customer and dares not be subject to sanctions. There will be talk but little real China action.
“German High Command was ready to arrest Hitler, when he ordered an attack on Czechoslovakia, if France and England threatened war.”
Then why didn’t they arrest him after Poland, since the conditions were virtually identical?
Your Leftist friends also claim that Castro would have been buddies with the US had we just been ‘nicer’ to him.
Re-writes of history make me sick.
Right, so that's why we should be okay with invasions for territorial gain in Europe. Its not like they could spin out of control.
Because at that point Hitler had achieved successes in territorial expansion.
It will be soon enough. Russia is piece by piece, wiping out the resistance there. Zelensky is throwing everything he’s got at it’s defense which plays right into Russia’s hands. They’re all dead men and bakhmut will be part of Russia.
The ukonazis are getting what they deserve. Their corruption gave us Biden and refused us Trump. They enrich the Biden crime family.
I’m glad Ukraine is burning. Karma is a bitch.
You mad this morning, Paul Ryan bro?
We invaded this continent. Spain invaded Mexico and a litany of other places. France and England controlled half the world at one point.
Being ok with it isn’t the point. Fair/unfair is for children. You only keep what you can defend. If someone takes land from you, and you fail to defend it or reclaim it, it becomes theirs. If you don’t like it, tell them how you feel. They’ll just kill you.
The world has always been that way.
And you know this how?
Right, US invaded... US said Ukraine would join NATO maybe, someday, but WE CAUSED THIS Putin invasion of neighboring Ukraine. Okay
Wow. Your reading comp sucks. Go back to 4th grade.
Because I’m not an idiot. It’s what Russia does.
Right, lets ignore invasions for territorial conquest in Europe because hundreds of years ago we were guilty of conquest. Okay. Lets ignore leaders of countries violating numerous agreements the country signed, because after all might makes right. I see a bright future.
“Because at that point Hitler had achieved successes in territorial expansion.”
Nice try.
The fact that Russia is still there and still killing proves my point.
A private can understand what’s going on there. Ukraine is defensively going for broke, and Russia is killing them off until they stop coming.
Doesn’t take a west point graduate to see what’s going on there.
Russia fights like ants. They don’t care about casualties. The end result is their only concern
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