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More Students Are Turning Away From College and Toward Apprenticeships. Some white-collar training programs have become as selective as Ivy League universities
Wall Street Journal ^ | March 16, 2023 | Douglas Belkin

Posted on 03/16/2023 4:36:57 PM PDT by karpov

Last spring Dina Sosa Cruz sat with her parents and sister in the family’s living room and reviewed her options: a full academic ride to the University of the District of Columbia, or an apprenticeship in the insurance industry.

The college route meant at the end of four years the 22-year-old would have a degree, a little debt and no work experience. The apprenticeship would leave her with a two-year degree, money in the bank and training in a profession that appealed to her.

Her family was unanimous: Take the apprenticeship. “You’ll be worry free,” her mother said.

Family conversations like the one in Ms. Cruz’s living room are bubbling up around the country as high-school seniors recalibrate their options after the pandemic prompted a historic disengagement from school. The result has been the acceleration of a shift away from the nation’s half-century “college-for-all” model toward a choice of either college or vocational programs—including apprenticeships.

Today, colleges and universities enroll about 15 million undergraduate students, while companies employ about 800,000 apprentices. In the past decade, college enrollment has declined by about 15%, while the number of apprentices has increased by more than 50%, according to federal data and Robert Lerman, a labor economist at the Urban Institute and co-founder of Apprenticeships for America.

Apprenticeship programs are increasing in both number and variety. About 40% are now outside of construction trades, where most have traditionally been, Dr. Lerman said. Programs are expanding into white-collar industries such as banking, cybersecurity and consulting at companies including McDonald’s Corp., Accenture PLC and JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Apprenticeships take many forms but generally pair students with a course of study focused on a particular occupation and practical work experience under the supervision of a mentor.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
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1 posted on 03/16/2023 4:36:57 PM PDT by karpov
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“Programs are expanding into white-collar industries such as banking...”

Do they the necessary critical banking skills to get ahead such as CRT, DEI, ESG, and wokety-woke?


2 posted on 03/16/2023 4:39:32 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The government's lying liars love to lie)
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I went to Northeastern which had a coop program for the engineering students. I worked 50% of the year and school the other 50%. 5 years for a BSEE but I got to work at 3 very different companies and settled on one field. Stayed in that sector for my whole career. The work experience was at least as valuable as the classroom work and I understood what being an engineer really meant. Debt was nearly negligible when I graduated too.


3 posted on 03/16/2023 4:49:42 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo ( )
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They are becoming quite competitive. You either must have the highest drive and skills or be completely melachicktastic


4 posted on 03/16/2023 5:03:34 PM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: karpov

On the whole this is a very healthy development. What is not new is that two year colleges’ skills training curricula have been the unsung heroes of the education enterprise for decades, maybe finally reaching the respect they deserve.


5 posted on 03/16/2023 5:12:06 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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People who want an intellectual education should go to a classical-curriculum college.

People who want a professional education should go to pre-med, pre-law, or pre-seminary.

Everyone else should pick a trade, blue- or white- collar, and apprentice in it.

A million educators, including yours truly, would be out of work, but the society would be a much better place.


6 posted on 03/16/2023 5:26:01 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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chajin,
A very intelligent post based on experience. Thanks.


7 posted on 03/16/2023 5:28:20 PM PDT by oldplayer
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I worked for a large corporation that would only hire college graduates for sales positions. A sales manager asked for an exception to hire an experienced salesman who had a great track record but no degree. I approved he hire. The individual turned out to be the best sales person in the unit and was a critical player in making the division the top performing in the corporation for several years.

Of further interest this salesperson had stronger communication and math skills than many of salespeople holding college degrees.


8 posted on 03/16/2023 5:37:55 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: chajin

I encourage kids to go into good, accredited trade school. Get out in a couple of years with good grades and step into a high five figure career with little debt.


9 posted on 03/16/2023 5:40:29 PM PDT by wjcsux (RIP Rush Limbaugh 12 Jan 1951- 17 Feb 2021. We really miss you. 😢)
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To: karpov

“Dina Sosa Cruz...her options: a full academic ride to the University of the District of Columbia”

I’m old enough to remember when AMERICANS got scholarships.


10 posted on 03/16/2023 5:42:02 PM PDT by BobL
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To: karpov

No indoctrination, brainwashing or programming? And if you like your genitals, you can keep ‘em?


11 posted on 03/16/2023 5:43:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("I may be a white boy but I'm not stupid". - FJB at Black "History" event. Tell 'em Jo Jo!)
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To: Soul of the South

I worked for a large corporation that would only hire college graduates for sales positions. A sales manager asked for an exception to hire an experienced salesman who had a great track record but no degree. I approved he hire. The individual turned out to be the best sales person in the unit and was a critical player in making the division the top performing in the corporation for several years.

Of further interest this salesperson had stronger communication and math skills than many of salespeople holding college degrees.

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My prediction is over the next two decades stories like yours will become the norm for businesses that want to remain successful. Demographics are going to make labor utilization one of the most important factors to commercial success.

Talent should never be ignored or discriminated against because of rules, not having the right paperwork, or lack of the right credentials.

Job performance should be the priority.


12 posted on 03/16/2023 6:19:53 PM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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My son did his internship his junior summer. The company kept him on part time as a senior. With the employers help he graduated six months early, even after a year of the Covid mess. He started January 1st, 2023 as a systems engineer in a satellite company. He goes back and forth between England and Minneapolis. They wouldn't let him go because he can weld any alloy, machine parts to specs himself, write code for systems and communications, and cleans up his own mistakes. 80% of his job requires things you can't learn in college. The job though requires a double EE Degree.

In any company you need to know just as much as every other role and the skillets needed to perform the work. That way you get full cooperation from all.

13 posted on 03/16/2023 6:21:29 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Forget "Global Warming", new grants are for "Galaxy Dimming")
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To: Soul of the South

If that was you thanks


14 posted on 03/16/2023 6:24:24 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: wjcsux

I know several very bright twentysomethings that did a cpl years in CC and lots of self study actually learning and getting extra in cybersecurity who are making >200k a year with non stop unsolicited offers coming at them


15 posted on 03/16/2023 6:26:40 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: NewHampshireDuo

Coops can be very important. They can help a student decide what he or she wants to do, but sometimes more importantly help a student decide what he or she does NOT want to do.

Northeastern is famous for their Coops.


16 posted on 03/16/2023 7:05:10 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Maine Mariner

Indeed. I thought microwave stuff was really neat until I worked at a microwave company. That killed that. The one that I meshed with was semiconductor.


17 posted on 03/16/2023 7:29:43 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo ( )
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To: hinckley buzzard

If these dumbass kids would listen to MIKE ROWE they would be set up for jobs (good paying jobs) when they completed an apprenticeship program.

Mr. Rowe even offers scholarships for students who are willing to hoe the row!


18 posted on 03/16/2023 9:39:08 PM PDT by 5th MEB
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To: NewHampshireDuo

NU grad here too


19 posted on 03/17/2023 12:04:26 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....l)
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To: chajin

We need a like button on here. Your comment is spot on.


20 posted on 03/17/2023 8:31:56 AM PDT by MissH
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