Posted on 03/16/2023 5:38:51 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
Leading US attorney Prof. Alan Dershowitz, who has voiced his opposition to Israel's judicial reform plan in the past, now admits that despite his opposition, the legislation would not make Israel any less democratic.
During a Zoom debate with legal scholar Eugene Kontorovich organized by J-AIR Jewish radio on the subject of the reforms, Dershowitz insisted that the majority of opposition to the reform is due to the fact that a right-wing government is proposing it. "If exactly the same proposals were being made by a centrist government, or left-wing government, no one would notice," he claimed. "There would be no demonstrations. There would be some academic discussion, law school teachers would be teaching it, but hardly anyone would care."
He added that in his 60 years of following such issues, he's never heard of a demonstration genuinely about judicial reform. "It's not about judicial reform, it's about the fact that the reform is being put foward by a government that frightens a lot of people, a government that includes some extreme right-wing people," the professor alleged.
Despite his opposition to most of the reforms, Dershowitz added that, "Even if all of these reforms were to be enacted, it would turn Israel, G-d forbid, into Canada, New Zealand, or Australia, or many European countries. It would not turn it into Poland, or an autocratic country."
"There are extremes on both sides," he continued, "and alongside a need for compromise, there really is a need for some reform ... Reform will not undercut democracy," he stressed.
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If I understand leftist logic correctly, democracy requires that supreme power be vested in an unelected minority. That’s yet another self-contradicting principle that they seem to live by.
Dear Professor, how is a Israeli government made up of representatives elected by its people - at the same time a government that "frightens" people? I think what you're saying is that the Israeli government is not liberal enough for the hard left in Israel, so therefore it must be dangerous. This is typical liberal thought. Mr. Dershowitz and you spout the narrative like a good little liberal.
Tell us Professor, precisely what is frightening about the current Israeli government other than it's not far left?
YES, I know! I need to do a better job of proof-reading before I post. Mea Culpa!
The nation sabotaging libs are only 10% of the Jewish population in Israel. But many/most? of the lawyers are libs. Thus, they control the Israeli judiciary. These skunks, these judges, are always thwarting the will of the Knesset and the Prime Minister. Especially when Netanyahu is Prime Minister. Their judiciary has the last word, same as in America. This is a very lopsided situation. So bad that they were/are mounting lawfare against Netanyahu and wife for years.
Netanyahu and his Knesset coalition are trying to fix this. Naturally the judges and scummy lawyers are squealing like stuck pigs.
There was Smotrich saying that a certain Arab village, recently attacked by angry Jews, should be burnt out entirely. That actually is a bit frightening to me. Mob violence is frightening. Endorsing it is, too. And I’m far from liberal.
On the other hand, the anti-government violence by leftards started before that incident. In fact, the anti-government violence is enabling and emboldening Arab violence.
You might want to to change that to “are squealing as stuck pigs do”.
Is my assessment from America accurate? Thanks! Go find some pigs in Israel if you can. Stick one with a knife to see how the Libby judges will squeal, when Bibi and his coalition discipline them and limit their powers.
(I hear that there are some very few pigs raised there) (That the Muslims are the best buyers)
I just take issue with your assessment that they are squealing “like” stuck pigs. More accurately, they are stuck pigs, perpetually bleeding and squealing.
Ought to be some override procedure for out-of-control courts in America, too, short of a constitutional amendment.
The US and Israel have the same problem with a liberal to socialist to communist judiciary. Just look at what the DC judges did to the January 6th defendants.
Extremists in governments, both right and left, exist. Extreme extremists are generally outliers but in the case of the U.S., the democrat party at the federal level is mostly represented by extremists - IMHO.
I don't know enough about Israeli politics to make a similar claim. My sense is that their multi-party parliamentary system allows for greater moderate representation.
Ben Gurion was an outright communist. Begin was considered an extremist, but he was nothing of the sort. Livni, Barak and Olmert were somewhere left of center. Shamir was right of center, but not all that extreme, and neither is Bibi nor was Sharon. Ironically, the Left has won all the wars, and the Right has made all the concessions. Begin evacuated the Sinai. Sharon evacuated Gush Katif. But Shimon Peres approved construction of Kiryat Arba. Eshkol won the Six-Day War and Golda Meir won the Yom Kipur War. Ben Gvir is a right-wing extremist, but that’s why I voted for him;D
I don’t know enough of Israeli politics to make any sense of that, but it’s real. It’s like life through the looking glass. Nuts.
Stalin was the first to recognize Israel so you may be right about Ben Gurion.
He mainly did it to screw over the British. Early on, he made Zionism a serious offense, and sentenced people, even veterans of the “Great Patriotic War,” to hard time in the Gulag for expressing a desire to make Aliya.
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