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Another big counterpunch against Russia could cost more lives than Kyiv's forces can afford to lose, a Ukrainian senior official warns
Business Insider via Yahoo ^
| March 14th, 2023
| Chris Panella
Posted on 03/14/2023 5:35:42 PM PDT by Mariner
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With One Piece at a Time they built that fancy new Armored Brigade Combat Team.
Now that team will have to win the whole war.
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posted on
03/14/2023 5:35:42 PM PDT
by
Mariner
To: Mariner
From the article, “ The official said he’s not sure how Ukraine can mount an effective counterattack this spring. “I’m looking at the resources and asking, ‘With what?’”
The truth is emerging, and from a western MSM outlet. Surprise, Surprise.
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posted on
03/14/2023 5:46:24 PM PDT
by
delta7
To: Mariner
“Steiner’s assault will bring the situation under control.”
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posted on
03/14/2023 5:53:12 PM PDT
by
ClearCase_guy
(“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
To: delta7
I've been seeing more truth coming out over the last few days. The battle in and around Bahkmut is a real violent fight that is killing men on both sides. I think Russia can absorb losses better then Ukraine right now. I heard a Ukrainian soldier talking about how lucky he was to survive a direct hit from a tank shell on the bunker he was in. The guys with him didn't survive. The numbers of dead and wounded in his area was extremely high according to him. I guess we will know the outcome in Bahkmut pretty soon.
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posted on
03/14/2023 6:09:02 PM PDT
by
Rdct29
(Democrats are the new Nazi's. They think they deserve total control over the people)
To: Mariner
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posted on
03/14/2023 6:18:04 PM PDT
by
McGruff
(Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
To: Mariner; marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; ...
Ukraine ping
Ukraine might be trying to get Russia’s guard down. When Putin moved large numbers of Russian troops around Kharkov to Kherson, he left the road open for Ukrainians to retake ~12,000 square miles, a chunk of land the size of Maryland. The Ukrainian official is saying that the army being assembled from a mishmash of near sell-by-date equipment from NATO’s junkyards needs to be complete before a general offensive - that there’s no point in penny packet attacks that will simply get whittled down.
At that point, we will discover whether Western armor really is capable of defeating superior numbers of Russian armor without the benefit of air power. During Desert Storm, the Russians argued that air power made the difference for the Western armored units that curb-stomped their quantitatively-superior Russian-armed Iraqi counterparts. In addition, they claimed that the armor provided to Iraq consisted of inferior export models. The tanks the Russians are using in Ukraine are presumably not export models.
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posted on
03/14/2023 6:20:39 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
To: Rdct29
>I guess we will know the outcome in Bahkmut pretty soon.
They’re just waiting until the Russians hit a treeline without Ukrainians behind it. Then, once that surge happens, the Ukrainians will shuffle and other areas will be left open. It turns into a slow bleed that gets faster and faster.
All the death is happening with Wagner.
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posted on
03/14/2023 6:21:08 PM PDT
by
struggle
To: Mariner

Mom, they want to ship me to the front lines!
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posted on
03/14/2023 6:23:22 PM PDT
by
McGruff
(Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
To: Zhang Fei
"Ukraine might be trying to get Russia’s guard down. When Putin moved large numbers of Russian troops around Kharkov to Kherson, he left the road open for Ukrainians to retake ~12,000 square miles, a chunk of land the size of Maryland." Hopium is a helluva drug Zhang Fei.
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posted on
03/14/2023 6:31:27 PM PDT
by
wildcard_redneck
(Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
To: Rdct29
I guess we will know the outcome in Bahkmut pretty soon.
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As we speak, Avdika is also being encircled….another key Ukie defensive position…..as an Ivan General states…we draw them in, encircle, establish the cauldron, then start Boiling it….over, and over again.
….and that’s that.
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posted on
03/14/2023 6:32:25 PM PDT
by
delta7
To: Mariner
There is no way Ukraine has more cannon fodder than Russia. The Ukes absolutely will run out first. The only way to avoid this is the introduction of NATO cannon fodder into the equation.
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posted on
03/14/2023 6:37:55 PM PDT
by
hardspunned
(Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
To: Rdct29
“I’ve been seeing more truth coming out over the last few days. The battle in and around Bahkmut is a real violent fight that is killing men on both sides. I think Russia can absorb losses better then Ukraine right now. I heard a Ukrainian soldier talking about how lucky he was to survive a direct hit from a tank shell on the bunker he was in. The guys with him didn’t survive. The numbers of dead and wounded in his area was extremely high according to him….”
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It is a very deadly and dangerous place for Ukrainian conscripts. Some who decide they’d prefer to be POWs rather than dead or maimed end up being machine gunned in the back by their “friends” while trying to surrender to the Russians. Of course many become POWs. The guys in this video were unsuccessful L
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv2U7ETFDo8
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posted on
03/14/2023 6:43:18 PM PDT
by
House Atreides
(I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
To: struggle
All the death is happening with Wagner.
Wagner has the artillery and shells to go with it. All the death occurs on the receiving end.
To: Mariner
According to this post, Ukraine has plenty of fighting age men who are performing in drag - maybe to get out of fighting???
___________________________________
In Kiev, Drag Queens Perform to Forget The War — And to Defy Putin
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4138196/posts
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posted on
03/14/2023 6:57:02 PM PDT
by
airborne
(Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic!)
To: Mariner
This article is preparing us for Biden to order the use of American troops in Ukraine. We already have 3 divisions worth of equipment placed forward in Poland. It’s coming. Joe and the Neocons and the MIC want this war.
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posted on
03/14/2023 7:04:27 PM PDT
by
realcleanguy
(quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
To: realcleanguy
Poland is where Trump ordered V Corps European headquarters to be moved to when he reactivated V Corps, of course, we keep troops and equipment there.
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posted on
03/14/2023 7:37:45 PM PDT
by
ansel12
(NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
To: hardspunned
Concur. Send Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell.
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posted on
03/14/2023 8:12:17 PM PDT
by
Obadiah
To: Mariner
Ukraine's Security Council refutes statements that counteroffensive may be in danger due to losses at frontUkrainska Pravda TETIANA LOZOVENKO — TUESDAY, 14 MARCH 2023
The National Security Council refutes the information of
The Washington Post about the deterioration of the quality of the Ukrainian army due to the loss of skilled fighters, which endangers the spring counteroffensive.
Source: Oleksiy Danilov, the secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, on air of the national 24/7
Quote: "We read these newspapers cautiously before 24 February, when they all unanimously told us there would be trouble. All this is not true.
Today is the beginning of a new phase, and I would like it not to be supported by our media. What they say is not valid. Yes, there is a problematic situation. We have been waging war against a larger country for a year, but not larger in reason. We knew it would be difficult for us. But now to shake up the situation by providing information that does not correspond to reality is not very pleasant.
I would like to point out that there are no surnames – they have some sources. And they are now starting such a game."
Background:
On 13 March, The Washington Post published an article alleging that the quality of the Ukrainian military had deteriorated due to battlefield losses of many of its most experienced fighters, prompting some Ukrainian officials to question Kyiv's readiness for the long-awaited spring offensive.
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posted on
03/14/2023 10:59:12 PM PDT
by
familyop
("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
To: Zhang Fei
"The tanks the Russians are using in Ukraine are presumably not export models."
True. The Russians recently bragged that they're sending 200 T-90s with their latest modifications.
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posted on
03/14/2023 11:15:21 PM PDT
by
familyop
("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
To: Zhang Fei
Its not going to be tank on tank battle, except in very rare instances - mostly western tanks will fall just like any other tank - to artillery fire.
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posted on
03/15/2023 3:13:54 AM PDT
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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