I don’t like the idea that those who support Ukraine are “hawks”, and are put into a false dichotomy about the fight.
From my point of view, the #1 threat to the US right now is China. But Russia retains its #2 position by dint of its willingness to be aggressive, repeated incursions into the territory of its neighbors, and a desire to rebuild in some form the Soviet Union.
So for this reason, the Russia-Ukraine war is a good thing, as it is taking Russia down several pegs. That Putin is a secret policeman, and to a great extent has put his secret police into the planning and leadership of the war is a good thing, as they are incompetent as military leaders.
I am not shocked that Ukraine is corrupt, or that the US is pouring money down its rat hole. We always do that, and we have supported many allies worse than the Ukrainians.
Were India to replace Ukraine and fight China, I would be just as enthusiastic that they should be supported. It would not mean that I would be especially pro-India.
The Ukraine is. Waste of our time and our money. The Eurotrash need to pony up the cash to defend themselves.
Man, you’ve taken the government line hook, line and sinker. Other than in Hillary’s Russia, Russia, Russia fantasies, when did Russia attack us or NATO? Where in the NATO Charter is any of this authorized? Where are the UN troops? What treaty requires any American or NATO involvement. What possible risk to the US could Russia’s occupation of four oblasts on its border be? Are you trotting out the corrupt murderous world policeman again. I would think you’d learn about these overseas adventures after getting 15,000 American boys and a million mostly innocent Arabs killed looking for Saddam’s yellow cake. We sure showed the Saudis who attacked us 9/11 what for by slaughtering all those Afghans 6000 miles away. You guys get me. The US can go 10,000 miles away, send 2 1/2 million men, get 56,000 killed and a million locals, ravage three countries for a decade to prevent the first domino from falling on the other side of the world. Russia, after watching 30 years of 100% west to east revanchist western expansion to the very border of Russia, has been forced to react. Russia, with the largest offensive military behemoth the world has ever seen sitting on its border, a days tank ride to Moscow is trying to keep the very last domino from falling. If it does we all lose.