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To: Skwor
If I may add my 2 cents in. As an EV owner, with my experience the EV charging is now the #2 power demanding "appliance" in my all-electric home. #1 is variable speed heat pump, #2 is the EVSE (charger), and #3 is the hybrid water heater.

In other words, if government is successful at making everybody drive EV's it's liable to be more of a power drain per car than everybody running an electric water heater twice as often.

506kWh -- amount used for charging EV last month
1,776kWh -- total power consumption in my home (including charging the EV)
594kWh -- total I pulled from the grid last month
1,182kWh -- total my solar system supplied to me for free (preventing me from having to pull that much from the grid) (not too shabby for February billing cycle of an all-electric two-story home)

Most people who get an EV don't do solar, and almost never do it as much as I have. So expect the first 2 numbers to be big impacts on utility power demand after multiplying by however many switch to EV's. Also expect the Dims to keep making things worse to make free American citizens beg for energy. I suggest to anyone who loves freedom and it's possible to make most of your own energy, that you begin the analysis needed on what you can do to meet your energy consumption habits and which ways you can alter your energy consumption habits without lowering your lifestyle.

In our case we "altered our habits" by converting our natural gas appliances to electric and when it was time to replace my wife's car anyway we replaced it with an EV. The end result is we keep our house the temps we want and drive as much as we want, but the difference now is we're almost 100% dependent on the one energy source type (electricity) that we can bring in most of what we need for ourselves (through solar and battery storage). I replaced most of my future variable costs (only God knows how much power and natural gas and gasoline will cost in the future) with fixed costs of a HELOC loan payment I took out to pay for most of this project. Bonus points on doing it when it was easy to get a low fixed rate interest rate. Now the only energy we buy is the 20% of so of power we need not supplied by solar (averaged through the year, less than 20% in the spring, summer, and fall, more in the winter), plus gasoline for the ICE pickup we drive every now and then for pickup chores, plus either power or gas for driving on trips (depending on which car we take), plus random small bits of energy here and there like swapping out the propane tank for the gas grill or filling up a gasoline can for the lawn mower.

24 posted on 03/10/2023 5:39:05 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

Your numbers seem a bit optimistic and I have to wonder where you live?

A person living in the northern states will not achieve the required energy needs using only electracy from solar alone. Solar panels at best rating are based on peak solar hours and the winter, even in the best of times, gets no where near what’s needed. Add in a projected storm / overcast days and you have people dying from the need for energy just to keep warm and eat!


27 posted on 03/10/2023 5:50:15 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Tell It Right

My experience with solar is very limited.
I have it on my truck camper. Works great in the summer, but in the winter months not so well.
I have to turn on my DCtoDC charger to bring batteries back.
Also the system cost money. The electricity it produces is not really free.


32 posted on 03/10/2023 6:28:00 AM PST by Iceclimber58
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