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At U.S. Base in Germany, Ukraine’s Military Conducts War Games
The New York Times ^ | March 2, 2023 | Helene Cooper and Eric Schmitt

Posted on 03/07/2023 3:10:15 AM PST by Timber Rattler

With winter almost behind them, senior American generals hosted Ukrainian military officials this week for a set of “tabletop” exercises designed to help Kyiv map out the next stage of its battle to reclaim territory from dug-in Russian troops.

During a war-game session at the headquarters of U.S. Army Europe and Africa, the military officials rehearsed a range of options for an offensive that Ukraine’s leader, President Volodymyr Zelensky, has been telegraphing for some time.

The sessions, attended on Thursday by President Biden’s most senior generals responsible for American efforts to help Ukraine, were meant to strategize, officials said, mapping out the risks and benefits of a variety of moves that Ukraine might make against Russian positions in the coming months.

Ukrainian officials will ultimately decide which course to follow, with the American military officials described as serving like a sounding board.

After one session on Thursday, Gen. Christopher G. Cavoli, the supreme allied commander for Europe, praised the Ukrainian military’s “phenomenal” adaptability and said, “We’re going to help them adapt more.”

The United States and NATO, he said, “can keep going as long as necessary.”

The war games come as Ukraine is emerging from a winter that was expected to provide a lull in fighting. But both sides continue to take heavy casualties in the Russian onslaught against the eastern city of Bakhmut.

Earlier this week, Mr. Zelensky appeared to signal that Ukraine was preparing for a major offensive. He said in a speech that he had met with top officers in the military about preparations, as well as about shortages in weaponry and ammunition.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bidenswar; europe; germany; nato; neocons4war; ukraine; ww3; wwiii
Spring is coming...
1 posted on 03/07/2023 3:10:15 AM PST by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

How about a nice game of Global Thermonuclear War?


2 posted on 03/07/2023 3:16:07 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAXI)
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To: Timber Rattler

Bring our troops home from Europe. It’s the source for all of Europe’s provocations against Russia. Europe might then have to learn to peacefully coexist with Russia.


3 posted on 03/07/2023 3:25:34 AM PST by McCarthysGhost (q)
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To: McCarthysGhost
It’s the source for all of Europe’s provocations against Russia.

Oh, so just flee and the mean Russians will go away?

4 posted on 03/07/2023 3:35:18 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

Which makes the US base a legit target in the Ukraine-Russia war. Yet, we have not declared war on Russia. A very dangerous situation. Just like Bush had no business invading Iraq, Biden has no business involving us in this war.


5 posted on 03/07/2023 4:39:36 AM PST by Reno89519 (DeSantis or Sanders, Anyone But Trump in 2024. Time for Trump to Stand Aside and Retire.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Europe can defend themselves and do so with their money. Why should we do so unless they want to cede their soverignty to us?


6 posted on 03/07/2023 4:40:41 AM PST by Reno89519 (DeSantis or Sanders, Anyone But Trump in 2024. Time for Trump to Stand Aside and Retire.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Yes, and the collective West is sitting around war gaming while Vlad’s artillery hammer is actively pounding away with 60,000 rounds a day, reducing Ukies and “ boiling the Cauldrons “…….I am sure the poor Ukie soldiers that are getting clobbered 24/7 are comforted by that uplifting thought.


7 posted on 03/07/2023 4:52:03 AM PST by delta7
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To: Reno89519

From the article “We’re going to help them adapt more.”……yeah right, I have heard it before, “ we are from the government , and here to help”. Laughable.


8 posted on 03/07/2023 4:55:32 AM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.

Reality is that Ukraine is going to deploy 60 to 70k mechanized troops no later than May.

Ukraine is going to launch an offensive. Russia knows this is coming and is desperately trying to make some advances before they are rolled back.

Why you keep saying the opposite is anyone’s guess.


9 posted on 03/07/2023 5:07:46 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Timber Rattler

What base in Germany?

Is this an example of modern journalism? All fluff and backstory for paragraphs and not who, what, when, WHERE and how?

I don’t want to click a link by the New York Slimes.


10 posted on 03/07/2023 5:28:11 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Gov't declaring misinformation is tyranny: “Who determines what false information is?” )
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To: Alas Babylon!

Ramstein


11 posted on 03/07/2023 5:31:42 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Timber Rattler

Er, at Lucius D. Clay Kaserne in Hesse, HQ for the United States Army Europe and Africa (USAREUR-AF).


12 posted on 03/07/2023 5:35:01 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: McCarthysGhost

“”Europe might then have to learn to peacefully coexist with Russia.””

Many of those countries just recently escaped Russian conquest and sought safety in a military alliance to avoid being enslaved again into peaceful coexistence with Russia.


13 posted on 03/07/2023 8:10:55 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: delta7

“”while Vlad’s artillery hammer is actively pounding away with 60,000 rounds a day””

Where do you get your goofy ideas about this war, what sources are telling you that Russia is using 60,000 artillery rounds a day?


14 posted on 03/07/2023 8:14:32 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Reno89519

No, any country in the world that hosts soldier training of one side in a war does not become a legitimate target for attack.


15 posted on 03/07/2023 8:17:50 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Timber Rattler
https://sonar21.com/the-west-does-a-back-flip-on-bakhmuts-strategic-importance/

Russia has lopped off the arms and legs of the Ukrainians and President Zelensky and General Zalushny insist it is only a flesh wound. This absurdity would normally be great grist for a comedy sketch. But there is nothing humorous about this war, it is a profound tragedy. Tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers are being sacrificed needlessly because NATO wants to use Ukraine as a proxy to fight Russia. And behind these horrendous casualties there are hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian mothers, fathers and siblings mourning the loss of a loved one.

16 posted on 03/07/2023 9:29:01 AM PST by Kazan
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