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Wagner Official Barred From Russia Military HQ as Feud Escalates
Newsweek ^ | March 6, 2023 | JON JACKSON

Posted on 03/06/2023 6:21:10 PM PST by familyop

Prigozhin made the claim on the Telegram channel for the press service of his legitimate business, Concord Management and Consulting. The accusation follows months of public criticisms that Prigozhin has leveled at Russian military officials..."On March 5, I wrote a letter to the commander of the SMO [Special Military Operation] grouping about the urgent need to allocate ammunition. On March 6, at 8 a.m., my representative at the headquarters had his pass canceled and was denied access," Prigozhin said in his Telegram message.

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1 posted on 03/06/2023 6:21:10 PM PST by familyop
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To: familyop

Fantastic! I guess this means the Russians are beaten. Will vinyl pants insist upon the sacking of Moscow?


2 posted on 03/06/2023 6:28:05 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: familyop

Putin MIA today.
#Chemo
#Sochi


3 posted on 03/06/2023 6:30:36 PM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: familyop
Putin's Military Leaders' 'Psychopathy' Slammed by Former Russian Commander
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4136203/posts

4 posted on 03/06/2023 6:31:02 PM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: familyop

Wagner is going to put their catering hats on and disrupt a Kremlin dinner sometime soon.

I hope they televise the sledgehammering during the civil war.


5 posted on 03/06/2023 6:38:23 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: familyop

May Prigozhin get more and more upset with the russian military leaders til they sabotage one another


6 posted on 03/06/2023 6:39:58 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

Prigozhin is not and never has been in the military. He is nothing more than a businessman.

That said, the Wagner group of mercenaries are deployed typically where high casualties are expected, saving Russian military lives. Vlad needs them.


7 posted on 03/06/2023 7:04:53 PM PST by delta7
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To: familyop
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/03/why-bakhmut-is-falling.html#more

Yesterday the Kyiv Independent reported from near the frontline about the bad situation for the Ukrainian troops fighting there:

Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut: ‘Our troops are not being protected’

Russia’s relentless assault on Bakhmut is sacrificing waves and waves of unprepared men being sent to their deaths. But multiple defenders of this embattled city in Donetsk Oblast feel that they are in a similar boat, according to interviews with more than a dozen soldiers currently fighting in or around Bakhmut.

During their brief visits to the nearby town of Kostiantynivka, Ukrainian infantrymen told the Kyiv Independent of unprepared, poorly-trained battalions being thrown into the front line meat grinder to survive as best they could with little support from armored vehicles, mortars, artillery, drones and tactical information.

“We don’t get any support,” says a soldier named Serhiy, who has been fighting on the front lines in Bakhmut, sitting down with his friend, also named Serhiy, for a conversation in a small cafe in the Kostiantynivka market. Both men are in their 40s but one of them is a bit older than the other.

The soldiers lack about everything that would support their defense:

They say that Russian artillery, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers are often allowed to strike Ukrainian positions for hours or days without being shut down by Ukrainian heavy weapons. Some complained of poor coordination and situational awareness, allowing this to happen or making it even worse.

Mortarmen spoke of extreme ammunition scarcity and having to use weapons dating back to World War II. Drones that are supposed to provide critical reconnaissance information are also scarce and are being lost at very high rates in some parts of the battlefield.

All this leads to terrifying casualties of both dead and wounded. "The battalion came in in the middle of December… between all the different platoons, there were 500 of us," says Borys, a combat medic from Odesa Oblast fighting around Bakhmut. "A month ago, there were literally 150 of us."

“When you go out to the position, it’s not even a 50/50 chance that you’ll come out of there (alive),” says the older Serhiy. “It’s more like 30/70.”

The soldiers describe the Russian operation as small reconnaissance followed by artillery fire. This is repeated again and again until it has reached the desired result. The very reasonable application of this tactic is why I disregard claims of 'waves or Russian cannon fodder storming forward' or of 'high Russian losses'. They are obviously nonsense:

The older Serhiy says that the enemy likes to send a team of three or four expendable foot soldiers to attack and make the Ukrainians expose themselves by shooting at them. At that point, the more elite forces zero in on the defenders’ position.

Once they begin exchanging fire, the Ukrainians are struck with heavier weapons like Russian mortars and rockets from Grad multiple launch rocket systems or BMP infantry fighting vehicles and BTR armored personnel carriers with machine guns.

“They get the positions where we are, establish the coordinates, then they hit us from seven to nine kilometers out with mortars,” as well as from closer by with grenade launchers, says the older Serhiy. “They wait for the house to fall so we have to jump out. The building catches fire and then they try to finish us off.”

“Their birds come out and they chase us with fire,” adds the younger Serhiy, referring to Russian UAVs, like quadcopters and Orlan-10 fixed wing drones that spot distant heavy weapons. “They hit accurately.”

As Russians destroy more and more buildings, Ukrainians keep losing more places where they can reliably take cover. Borys the medic says people have been lost when their entrenched positions collapsed from heavy Russian fire, suffocating them.

“I’ll put it like this, we should get our people out because if we don’t take off, then in the next few weeks, it’s going to be bad,” says Oleksandr. A mortarman named Illia agrees that Bakhmut is “practically encircled.”

For lack of ammunition there is no Ukrainian counter artillery fire. Infantry fighting vehicles are held back from the front. The little trained Territorial Brigades are send in at night to be killed the next morning:

Multiple soldiers say Bakhmut troops are barely given enough time to learn to shoot a rifle – sometimes their training is just 2 weeks, before they’re dropped into the hottest parts of the most intense current battle of the war. They would have preferred for troops to get a minimum of two or three months of training before being deployed to such a hot spot.

“Two weeks’ live training and they’re sent here. You can’t do that,” says the older Serhiy. “Or it’s a person who once served in the army, how long ago was that? Obviously they forgot everything.”

“We were promised that we wouldn’t be sent to the zero line right away, that at first we’d be sent to the second or third line,” he continues. “And then we came here in the middle of the night and they immediately sent us to Bakhmut.”

... According to both soldiers named Serhiy, most brigades are insufficiently trained and lack the experience for an environment as brutal as Bakhmut. People are taken at night to a place they’d never seen before and the battle starts in the morning.

“This is why positions are abandoned, people are there for the first time,” says the younger Serhiy. “I went to a position three times and was given six people who hadn’t fought at all before. We had a few dead and wounded that had to be evacuated… Our people are not being protected.”

Oleksandr confirms that while some battalions fighting in Bakhmut are well-trained and ready, most of them aren’t and many were thrown in at night without much preparation. “Yes, that’s true, my battalion was not prepared,” he says. After five months without a single break from the fighting, only half of Oleksandr’s battalion is left, he says.

“They shouldn’t have rushed to throw everyone in there,” says the younger Serhiy. “Better to abandon those positions, who cares? It’s better to properly train people.”

8 posted on 03/06/2023 8:23:39 PM PST by Kazan
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To: familyop
Prigozhin really wants his personal victory in Bakhmut. The Russian military is not interested in paying the price for his glory for him.

This is the 21st Century, and Russia is fighting a war like this? Its insane.

9 posted on 03/06/2023 10:41:54 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 - No CCCP 2.0 )
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"This is the 21st Century, and Russia is fighting a war like this? Its insane."

Russia's allies will fight high intensity conflicts, too. When the tyrants of such nations start such a war, they must be met with an army willing, trained and equipped to fight that kind of war. But with added western ingenuity, of course.

10 posted on 03/07/2023 1:12:41 AM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Kazan
Ukrainian defenders kill over 1000 occupiers and destroy 23 artillery systems in a day
IRYNA BALACHUK — TUESDAY, 7 MARCH 2023, 08:12
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/03/7/7392279/

Russia has lost 154,830 soldiers, 3,432 tanks, 6,714 armoured combat vehicles, 2,456 artillery systems and 303 fixed-wing aircraft in its war against Ukraine.

Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Facebook

Details: Total combat losses of the Russian forces between 24 February 2022 and 7 March 2023 are estimated to be as follows [figures in parentheses represent the latest losses – ed.]:

approximately 154,830 (+1,060) military personnel,
3,432 (+9) tanks,
6,714 (+11) armoured combat vehicles,
2,456 (+23) artillery systems,
488 (+0) multiple-launch rocket systems,
253 (+3) air defence systems,
303 (+1) fixed-wing aircraft,
289 (+0) helicopters,
2,095 (+9) operational-tactical UAVs,
873 (+0) cruise missiles,
18 (+0) ships/boats,
5,323 (+16) vehicles and tankers,
236 (+2) special vehicles and other equipment.

The data is being confirmed.

11 posted on 03/07/2023 1:14:49 AM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: Kazan

It appears as though the Russian army is cursed.


12 posted on 03/07/2023 1:15:30 AM PST by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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Cursed? Russia has annexed 40,000 square miles of territory. It's comprised 70-80% of Ukraine's GDP.

The Russian military has suffered very few causalities since almost all the fighting on the ground has been done by the DPR, LPR, Chechens and Wagner group.

Russia will get every last thing it wanted out of this war.

13 posted on 03/07/2023 10:21:01 AM PST by Kazan
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This is Baghdad Bob-level propaganda. All this information comes from the Ukrainians, who lie like they breath and from Deep State, which does the same.


14 posted on 03/07/2023 10:21:55 AM PST by Kazan
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To: familyop
Take a look at the map. It's the one thing that doesn't lie. It shows the area the Russians have liberated and annexed. And, that territory will not be part of Ukraine after this is over.

You might want to read this, too:

https://kyivindependent.com/national/ukrainian-soldiers-in-bakhmut-our-troops-are-not-being-protected

Ukrainian soldiers in Bakhmut: ‘Our troops are not being protected’

15 posted on 03/07/2023 10:24:01 AM PST by Kazan
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To: familyop

I really don’t believe the Wagner dude would air this out (if true) in a non secure/trusted medium. Probably more of a misinformation tactic.


16 posted on 03/07/2023 10:25:47 AM PST by CodeJockey ("The duty of a true Patriot is to protect his country from its government.” –Thomas Paine)
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To: Kazan

We all know that Putin is your man-god on planet earth. So now you love Prigozhin too? How about some love for the swollen Kadyrov, who was poisoned so it seems. He has terrible kidney problems all of a sudden. He looked healthy as a horse a few months ago. For Kadyrov, a better fate than being defenestrated.

Ramzan Kadyrov who is Putin’s favorite Muslim. Putin buys off the Chechens, to not rebel again, by bribing them to the tune of three billion dollars a year. Though I am sure the ailing Kadyrov steals at least 20% of this largess.


17 posted on 03/07/2023 10:30:24 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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