[Angelino97]

Submitted without comment.

[Renfrew]

There was a time when America hating fifth columnists like Hersh were slavered over by leftists and hated by all with any morality.

[Tea Party Terrorist]

America has become a war mongering evil state. It is a country where the Gov’t routinely lies to its people, forces them to inject a poison, tells children they are in the wrong body and will mutilate them. This is just the beginning.

[afsnco]

But that’s only the tip of the iceberg. This investigative power needs to be unleashed on the totality of the COVID madness. The U.S. government is the “baddie” in far more than NORDSTREAM.

[GOPJ]

If China had blown up the Keystone Pipeline - rather than Biden killing the project - it would have been considered an act of war.

I’m guessing - considering how our intelligence goons and thugs have hunted and lied about conservative Americans - that it’s possible they were behind blowing up Nordstream. Out of control and lawless... like the 51 intelligence goons who lied about Hunter’s laptop.

[Manic_Episode]

Communist coups carry catastrophic consequences.

[cherry]

get used to it....

remember fondly when we all watched Sky King and Roy Rogers and all the cowboy and indian movies and all the war movies and we always KNEW we were the best country with the best people.....

its sad to realize that we are not....

we have plenty of good people although their silence is deafening....

but our govt...almost all of it....is corrupt and evil and sinister and self serving...

good is bad and bad is good...

up is down, etc....

I am cheering Russia on and hope to God that the Ukraine and Russian people can survive what has to be done...

[TimSkalaBim]

America didn’t blow it up. Biden did, and it is no longer accurate to say the president represents the nation. Biden represents the deep state.

[RetiredScientist]

We need to impeach both Joe Biden and Kamella Harris. Biden exhibits clear dementia and Kamella is incompetent!

[ChessExpert]

We did not blow up the pipeline. The Biden administration seems to have blown up the pipeline.

In divorcing America from the Democrats, I’ve found that I can no longer be shamed/blamed for a great many things: slavery, segregation, the KKK, Jim Crow laws, the Trail of Tears, losing the Vietnam war, voter fraud, and systemic racism, come to mind.

[pierrem15]

More idiotic Russian propaganda. First off, the notion that the US could hide such an operation is laughable: the US government leaks like sieve. Second, it's even more ridiculous to think that the Norwegian and Danish governments would collude with the US to blow up the pipeline.

It's a classic Russian op to sow discord in NATO. Hersh simply let his America-hating, treasonous disposition get the better of his judgment. He should have been hanged 50 years ago.

[FrankRizzo890]

IMHO, we were dead set on supporting Ukraine. Germany and friends were NOT, because they were getting the gas from the Nordstream pipeline(s), and they didn’t want to jeopardize that. So, in order to “get them in line”, we blew up the pipeline, cutting off their gas. And shortly there after, the DID fall in line supporting Ukraine.

Ohhh. Another possibility just hit me. What if the government of Germany WANTED to support the war effort, but were afraid that if they did the gas supply would be cut off, and they would suffer politically at home. So, *WE* do it, and they are then free to support Ukraine?

[Widget Jr]

Its the author's opinion of Hersh's opinion. Hersh's opinion has problems.

After the invasion, the US slapped sanctions Nord Stream 2 AG, the company that owns Nord 2. Nord Stream 2 AG immediately filed for bankruptcy. Biden lifted sanctions on the company, after it filed for bankruptcy. Hersh brings up the imposing and lifting of sanctions, he does not mention the bankruptcy once. Right after the invasion Germany was looking for other sources of natural gas. Nordstream was sabotaged on September 26. September 29, Germany signed a 15 year contract with Qatar for natural gas.

Russian ownership in Nord 2 was the in the loans that would get paid off through sales. Russia had the loans, lost future revenue, fines and reparations, and the bankruptcy to resolve before they made a single Ruble from Nord 2. That is tens of billions of Rubles of reasons why Nord 2 was dead weight to them.

As far as the sabotage goes, Hersh's version means the US would have to have a specialized ship with diving chambers and DSRVS right above the Nord lines. That ship would have to travel from the the mouth of North Sea, past the Denmark Islands, to get to the Nord lines and back, when the Nord lines were some of the most watch part of the ocean.

Denmark in white, Zealand island in red in the middle, North Sea to the left, Baltic sea to the right. A ship with specialized diving equipment on deck or a USN nuclear submarines passing through Denmark might raise some awkward questions and unsatisfactory answers. The US now uses the Submarine Rescue Diving Recompression System since the DSRV Mystic and Avalon are retired as museum pieces, a fact Hersh made no distinction.

I'm no naval expert, but that might not pass as a fishing vessel right over the Nord lines. Hersh says the explosive were triggered by a sonobouy from a P-8 Orion. In 5,250 words, Hersh never gets around to explains how or when the explosives were planted. In particular, how the triggering mechanism was tested. He just says is happened, leaving that rest open ended. The Navy is not going to go from the drawing board to operational for a sonobouy triggering device without testing it first. They are not going to test it in Norway right near target when they want to keep the operation secret. That would risk to Baltic states and Russian Foreign Intelligence Service something was up.

The Russian navy has built lots off specialist submarines for undersea intelligence and sabotage, from the larger Belgorod, Lenok, Losharik, and the minature Piranha, Nelma and Halibut classes, and that's not a comprehensive list. Russia would just have to send a specialist submarine and a few divers, set the charges and timers, and leave. Then just let the press and politicans talk and blame each other.