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China becomes a roach motel for foreign investors: China goes the pariah state route and refuses to let investors withdraw their money from the country
American Thinker ^ | 03/06/2023 | Monica Showalter

Posted on 03/06/2023 7:56:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Thinking about putting your money into China?

Think again. According to what respected emerging markets investor Mark Mobius described, the place has become a roach motel for investors. Money goes in, but now it can't come out.

According to Asia Financial:

In an interview on Fox Business, the billionaire, now 86, cautioned other investors to be “very, very careful” about investing in an economy under a tight government grip.

“I have an account with HSBC in Shanghai. I can’t take my money out. The government is restricting flow of money out of the country,” Mobius, founder of Mobius Capital Partners, said in an interview published on March 2.

“I can’t get an explanation of why they’re doing this … They’re putting all kinds of barriers. They don’t say: No, you can’t get your money out. But they say: give us all the records from 20 years of how you made this money … This is crazy.”

That's expropriation, a communist specialty, whether the Chicoms are going to admit it or not. Not letting someone get their money out is the same as keeping it, stealing it, helping oneself to it. Why they would do this to a famous investor with a big global audience to let the other investors know is something of a mystery, this is tremendously bad public relations for them, but based on their other actions, it seems as though  at this point they don't care.

Already we know they're getting mean, what with their crazed COVID lockdowns, which drew tremendous popular protests, their stepped-up spy activity against the West, their machinations in Latin America, their intimidation of their neighbors, particularly Taiwan, and their massive military buildup. Today they announced that they'd ramp up their defense spending 7.2%


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ccp; china; communism; communists; investments; withdrawal
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Mobius added that they've been increasingly moving to take over companies and industries. That's part of the classic fascist and socialist playbook.
1 posted on 03/06/2023 7:56:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Gavin Newsome is closely following this.


2 posted on 03/06/2023 7:58:31 AM PST by LouAvul (Daniel 4:17: "..the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.." )
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Mobius added that they've been increasingly moving to take over companies and industries. That's part of the classic fascist and socialist playbook.

That's communism, just like what the Dims want here.

3 posted on 03/06/2023 7:59:28 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

China never left the fascist status.
I think China’s leaders may be getting ready to bug out and leave their people with nothing.


4 posted on 03/06/2023 8:00:02 AM PST by Jonty30 (THE URGE TO SAVE THE WORLD IS ALMOST ALWAYS AN URGE TO RULE IT)
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To: LouAvul

Right. He and his Dimm cronies want to take it to the next level and slap wealth taxes on people who already left the state.


5 posted on 03/06/2023 8:02:27 AM PST by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: SeekAndFind
The old scorpion and frog fable comes to mind.


6 posted on 03/06/2023 8:03:43 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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“China never left the fascist status.

I think China’s leaders may be getting ready to bug out and leave their people with nothing”.

I agree and will add that I suspect that’s a possibility/probability right here in the USA if/when things get bad enough.


7 posted on 03/06/2023 8:03:44 AM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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In an interview on Fox Business, the billionaire, now 86, cautioned other investors to be “very, very careful” about investing in an economy under a tight government grip.

Does that also apply to America? Just asking for Harry Reid‘s friend since Harry can’t anymore...

8 posted on 03/06/2023 8:04:44 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: Taxman

Ping


9 posted on 03/06/2023 8:05:08 AM PST by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2023 AND 2024!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fools and their money.


10 posted on 03/06/2023 8:07:35 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, that’s bad. But, they’re not alone.

But, remember that it was under Clinton that an exit tax was introduced on Americans. Any American renouncing citizenship was assumed to have presumptively sold his assets. They were marked to market and taxes levied on an exit tax return.


11 posted on 03/06/2023 8:11:26 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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"That's expropriation, a communist specialty, whether the Chicoms are going to admit it or not. Not letting someone get their money out is the same as keeping it, stealing it, helping oneself to it."

Not to derail the thread, but take this statement and compare it to calls to take frozen Russian assets and transfer them to Ukraine. Or attempting to take donations to the Canadian Trucker Convoy via GoFundMe and distribute them elsewhere.

12 posted on 03/06/2023 8:12:29 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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Mobius added that they've been increasingly moving to take over companies and industries.

If he's just figuring this out now, he's an idiot. How long did he think he'd be immune?

13 posted on 03/06/2023 8:24:07 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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RE: if he’s just figuring this out now, he’s an idiot.

Well, how many American CEO’s were thinking like Mobius?


14 posted on 03/06/2023 8:25:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

One of the best headlines I’ve ever seen. Absolutely brilliant and succinct.


15 posted on 03/06/2023 8:29:10 AM PST by mairdie (Grandfather Jack Bell - miner, reporter, lawman, naturalist - https://youtu.be/Dnnb63UEk9c)
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Missing from this article is the more important aspect of doing business in China: The transfer of intellectual property.

If you want to sell cars in China, you must make most of them in China.

If you want to open a car factory in China, you must partner with domestic Chinese car maker. You cannot build and operate the factory on your own.

Once you partner with a Chinese auto maker, they have access to all or most of the intellectual property that went into designing that vehicle and the processes used to manufacture it.

This is also true for other fields such as aerospace, consumer electronics, etc.

Cry me a river if a billionaire can't get his profits out of China, but when in the process he's giving Chine billions' worth of intellectual property that can be used to unfairly compete elsewhere in the world, or worse yet be used by the People's Liberation Army, that's a bigger issue for us all.

16 posted on 03/06/2023 8:29:31 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: SeekAndFind

In the Jiang-Hu years, it was somewhat more relaxed, but China has ALWAYS been “CCP first, last and always”

China liked having big foreign companies invest - for technology and political leverage.

But its certainly not now, and has never been (despite previous appearances), a place for free-enterprise.


17 posted on 03/06/2023 8:31:39 AM PST by PGR88
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I have to laugh: Is there anyone who couldn't foresee this? You can expect the investors to come to Uncle Sam to look for a bailout. That's how our economy works now: profits for the elite are theirs to keep, expenses are socialized to everyone else.

Being shielded from the painful consequences of their stupidity, our elites just keep making stupid choices.

18 posted on 03/06/2023 8:37:19 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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He’s an idiot, if he never knew this was a strong possibility.


19 posted on 03/06/2023 8:39:03 AM PST by nickcarraway
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RE: He’s an idiot, if he never knew this was a strong possibility.

But American companies STILL invested in China KNOWING that this was a possibility. It’s a risk they were and still are willing to take.

This goes for many Western countries.

Hey, for that matter, this goes for many Taiwanese businesses.


20 posted on 03/06/2023 8:42:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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