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To: Eleutheria5

I find it interesting that Ukraine/Zelenski is now saying that Crimea will once again become a part of Ukraine. However, the Crimean people voted to be a subject of Russia, overwhelmly. (I know this to be true because Ukraine and the US say the elections were rigged).

Either way this will never happen. Putin will never allow a NATO naval base in the Black Sea. Never.

Similar as to how we will never allow nuke missiles in Cuba. Too close for comfort.


21 posted on 02/28/2023 8:00:58 AM PST by CodeJockey ("The duty of a true Patriot is to protect his country from its government.” –Thomas Paine)
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To: CodeJockey

The “election” was held while Crimea was under occupation. The Crimean people, the Tartars, were forcibly removed from Crimea by Stalin while many of the Tartar men were busy fighting the Nazi invasion. The Tartars of Crimea and the Ukrainians together managed to overthrow the Polish imperial tyranny, only to be subjected to Russian tyranny in a switcheroo. Same thing happened after the communist revolution. Ukraine was promised independence by Lenin, who then annexed Ukraine, saying that thereby he was keeping Ukrainians safe from European exploitation.

“Putin will never allow a NATO naval base in the Black Sea. Never.”

Ironic, because he will no longer be President of Russia if he loses control of Crimea.

Furthermore, Ukraine is not a member of NATO, might never become a member of NATO, which is a long and arduous process, and imho it would not be worth it for Ukraine and is not worth it for Lithuania, Poland, or the other former Soviet satellites and Republics that have joined NATO. They ought to go their own way for mutual defense against the Russian bear or the German panther. But that’s really none of my business nor yours.

I am just opposed to Russia invading and occupying Ukraine, Moldavia, Georgia, etc., and dominating the puppet government of Bialarussia. Same as I would be against Britain reasserting its control over its former empire, which would include the United States, South Africa, Israel, India and Canada. Let crumbled empires lie.

“Similar as to how we will never allow nuke missiles in Cuba. Too close for comfort.”

By your logic, the US should have invaded Cuba. They did sponsor a clumsy attempt once upon a time, but just as the Russians for whom you’re shilling will “never” tolerate a NATO base on Crimea, so, too, the presence of a Soviet satellite in Cuba should have been a casus belli for direct conflict with Castro, not just sending over a bunch of yahoos to storm the beaches, and not just a near nuclear war over missiles.


22 posted on 02/28/2023 8:17:50 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David.)
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To: CodeJockey

“Either way this will never happen. Putin will never allow a NATO naval base in the Black Sea. Never.”

Really? What do you call Turkey?


23 posted on 02/28/2023 8:18:45 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David.)
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