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Ukraine one year war cost US more than 9 years of Afghan war, chart.
Statista | Feb. 26,2023 | norsky

Posted on 02/25/2023 11:02:32 AM PST by norsky

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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Exactly what you do when blaming Russia.

Right, its so wrong to blame Russia for INVADING Ukraine. Unbelievable

121 posted on 02/26/2023 4:29:59 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: buwaya
Out of all the 22 years of the Afghanistan mess...

We STILL LOST and were humiliated.

All the American Blood and Treasure were wasted, while American Veterans were shortchanged and mistreated IN America, while making the Prog Hard Socialist Democrats more powerful IN America.

No amount of anti Ukraine sentiment in selective opinion can make those truths go away.

And remember, your good friend Inflation is actually going to finish the American Economy and the US Dollar, not help Ukraine.

122 posted on 02/26/2023 6:48:23 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: buwaya

What’s absurd is how you miss the point. I said “rather”, in other words, instead of spending endless money in the direction of something that is completely corrupt, enriching themselves, and doing so in a completely unethical manner that isn’t the intent of their position or what we expect from them...how about we spend that money on things WE NEED?

Are there problems with our internal regulations that cause waste? Of course. There will always be. But to state that as a reason I should be OK with endless spending for Ukraine is just dumb.


123 posted on 02/26/2023 7:38:17 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Tom Tetroxide

We are STILL PAYING for Vietnam war!
And we are still paying for Iraq war!!
And we are still paying for Afghan war!!!

Because all these wars were fought with borrowed money.
Since our politicians in charge keep spending more money than tax revenues every year, the debts incurred for above 3 wars will never get paid. We just pay interest year after year.

In fiscal 2025, we will pay out MORE IN INTEREST than The Defense budget.

Only total idiot voters do not understand we are broke. Wars are causing us to go more broke. That ugly debt will dot disappear. Our children and grand children will be handed that debt burden.

WARs ARE A BUSINESS WE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD unless you want us to be like Venezuela with cirrency debasement and inflation killing all Americans except the top 5%.


124 posted on 02/26/2023 10:46:37 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: fuzzylogic

“Are there problems with our internal regulations that cause waste? “

Yes. And that “waste”, in fact that paralysis and suppression, is not just an annoyance, it is THE fatal disease afflicting the US. The complete failure of the US economy is coming, indeed, and that is the most important factor.

You have cancer, and you are freaking out about a hangnail.


125 posted on 02/26/2023 1:30:38 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: entropy12

“Our children and grand children will be handed that debt burden.”

LOL! Nope! Way longer than that. Try the next 10 generations that MIGHT be able to pay it off.


126 posted on 02/26/2023 1:34:29 PM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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To: dynoman

Pretty sure if the Russian Army had stayed in Russia, they would not be getting degraded.


127 posted on 02/26/2023 1:40:43 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: fuzzylogic

An example of the US corruption and waste -

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries/#GDP%20per%20capita%20and%20health%20consumption%20spending%20per%20capita,%202021%20(U.S.%20dollars,%20PPP%20adjusted)

This is the effect of regulation and legal incoherence. This affects both public and private costs of doing anything. This is also a source of hundreds of billions in public corruption, feeding entire Democrat-oriented industries, consultants, NGO’s, Qango’s, law firms, etc., paying for armies of “activists”.

The US spends $4.3 Trillion on medical care. Its wasting at least 40% of that, or $1.8 Trillion, or about 8% of GDP.

And this is just about medical expenses. The same is true about US costs of doing business in every other field.

All in, the US GDP is vastly overstated, so much of which is overspending for actual services that are much cheaper in other advanced countries. GDP also counts inefficiency, wasted work.

The scale of all this is hard to grasp. Its not apparent unless one does a deep dive. But its true nonetheless.

It is hard to explain to those unused to analysis. One has to go in with sledgehammers and iron spikes to make this point, so intensely do people resist understanding. And yet the actual numbers are openly available and not in dispute. There is NO argument against these conclusions.


128 posted on 02/26/2023 1:54:54 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

At no point did I say you were wrong.

I can still separate the two issues, both in numbers and ethics. One is funding war using (what are still) large sums of money that is taken from the taxpayer with zero accountability about where it all goes, where we’d all have to be morons to think that politicians are not seeing it come back their way.

The other is institutional and structural waste, along with corruption.

Your argument comes across as “don’t worry about Ukraine, it’s nothing” - disagree, these are still large sums of OUR money...while it could also be driving us toward WWIII.

Maybe the bigger point is what drives one also drives the other, the complete lack of understanding of what our “representatives” should be thinking in terms of ethics and what their role really is (should be). They have no problem with waste and pouring money into things the majority of the American people would consider wrong. Behind closed doors they all act the same.


129 posted on 02/26/2023 3:08:06 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Vermont Lt
Equivocation.
130 posted on 02/26/2023 5:49:23 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: thefactor

Lol. Typical.


131 posted on 02/27/2023 7:36:25 PM PST by ARW
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