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To: frithguild

The Ruids, as you call them, were the foundation stone for the Ukrainian, Belarusian, and Russian cultures & nationalities.

Nothing I have said should be interpreted as me being for or against the Russians or the Ukrainians.


32 posted on 02/25/2023 11:08:37 AM PST by Reily
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To: Reily
The Ruids, as you call them, were the foundation stone for the Ukrainian, Belarusian, and Russian cultures & nationalities.

I'll take only minor issue with this. If you group Galicia, Volhynia, Transcarpathia, Zapporizian Cossaks, Don Cossaks and the Crimean Hetmanate under the same "Borderlands" nationality (first in existence in 1922) and culture, we can quibble. Ukraine as Kievan Rus existed long before Russia.

With this I can quibble more. Kiev as a trading city was burnt to the ground and its entire population, men, women and children, were slaughtered by the mid 13th century Mongol Invasions. No city within the present confines of the borders of modern Ukraine were spared. East of the Dneiper became the Wild Fields because of slave raiding, etc. So there really isn't enough continuity to put meat on the "Ukraine as Kevian Rus" phrase as you employed it.

34 posted on 02/25/2023 11:41:18 AM PST by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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To: Reily
The Ruids, as you call them,

Thank you for pointing that out - you are right. Rurikids

64 posted on 02/25/2023 5:06:06 PM PST by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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