Posted on 02/18/2023 11:45:52 AM PST by Right Wing Vegan
“When Russia launched its attack, the West didn’t isolate the conflict but elevated it to a pan-European level,” Orban said. “The war in Ukraine is not a conflict between the armies of good and evil, but between two Slavic countries that are fighting against one another. This is their war, not ours.”
Under the slogan “Peace and Security,” Orban’s nearly hour-long address focused largely on the conflict in Ukraine, which is approaching its one-year mark, Feb. 24.
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Without a doubt they are trying to prolong it and, IMHO, widen it.
Tell that to obsessed on this forum.
Translation: Putin’s criminal aggression against Ukraine should be tolerated because Hungary needs Russian energy exports.
In truth it’s a difficult situation for Hungary, but Viktor Orban would be much wiser to keep his mouth shut. His mouth has cost him my respect.
(Under the slogan “Peace and Security,”)
I’d say he’s not wrong. I’d also say that ‘Peace and Security’ will come and be confirmed by Satan’s anti-messiah.
A 7-year “peace” deal dividing Israel.
I wonder of he would have the same attitude if Russia were to reinvade Hungry. Would he be OK with the rest of Europe saying: “The war in Hungry is not a conflict between the armies of good and evil, but between two eastern European countries that are fighting against one another. This is their war, not ours.” Maybe he should pull Hungry out of NATO and not expect others to defend it.
Yes. I’d like to see the transcript of the whole speech, not just cherry a picked bits. I hope one comes out.
To the Orbán bashers out there, two points:
1. Viktor Orbán is the Hungarian Donald Trump. Orbán puts Hungary first, period. And that’s not such a bad thing.
2. Hungarians dislike the Russians. And older Hungarians (like my relatives) hate the Russians. But most Hungarians understand point #1 quite clearly.
The Hungarian people and the Polish are two of the most pro Americans in Europe.
But, Orban is an idiot. It’s in the interests of the US and Hungary to have an aggressor nation defeated.
We only have to give Ukraine weapons to defend themselves. Nothing more than Russia did in Korea, Vietnam and Iraq/Afghanistan.
Orban of Hungary and Erdogan of Turkey are twin sons of different mothers.
Don’t think he cares about the respect of someone in another country
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act” - George Orwell
> It’s in the interests of the US and Hungary to have an aggressor nation defeated. <
No doubt about it. The Russian invasion of Ukraine is a war crime. And I don’t care how corrupt Ukraine is.
But here’s the thing. It’s also in the interests of the US and Hungary to keep things from spiraling out of control. A cornered and isolated Russia is a dangerous Russia. Plus Russia is led by a very sick man. That is also dangerous. This has to be on Orbán’s mind.
The insane and almost accidental march to war in 1914 wasn’t all that long ago. We’ve got to figure out a way to slap down Russia without sparking WW III.
He is a fool if he cares about your respect.
Unlike you, he cares about the interests of his country.
“The insane and almost accidental march to war in 1914 wasn’t all that long ago. We’ve got to figure out a way to slap down Russia without sparking WW III.”
There is nothing we can do, we are simply giving weapons to Ukaine. If we wouldn’t, it would be a bloodbath in Ukraine. No better than when the NViets killed anybody connected to the SVietnamese regime...military, govt workers, teachers etc.
It’s self defeating to not assist Ukraine with weapons. At some point the Russians will declare a BS victory and leave.
No, Orban is a victim of cognitive dissonance who has trouble keeping his mouth shut. Russian energy supplies determine his actions, and his troubled mind then conjures up reasons why he’s right. He would be wise to keep it to himself.
“The war in Ukraine is not a conflict between the armies of good and evil, but between two Slavic countries that are fighting against one another. This is their war, not ours.”
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Two Slavic countries, eh:
Military involvement in this war to date:
Estonia, the United Kingdom, Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Denmark, Czech Republic, the Netherlands, Slovakia, The United States of America, Albania, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Canada, Colombia, Croatia, Czech Republic, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Iran, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Montenegro, Morocco, New Zealand, North Macedonia, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Sudan, Sweden, Taiwan, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Belarus, North Korea, Syria, Republic of Abkhazia, Eritrea, Kazakhstan, Libya, Venezuela, Sudan, Cuba, Nicaragua, Russia and China.
| In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Hungary’s Orban accuses EU of prolonging war in Ukraine, rbmillerjr wrote: |
There is nothing we can do, we are simply giving weapons to Ukaine. If we wouldn’t, it would be a bloodbath in Ukraine. No better than when the NViets killed anybody connected to the SVietnamese regime...military, govt workers, teachers etc. It’s self defeating to not assist Ukraine with weapons. At some point the Russians will declare a BS victory and leave. |
This isn't your father's Ukraine. Our State Department, and the CIA 's Nuland, worked to overthrow the Ukraine in 2014 and install a puppet who would lead a war to destroy Russia. Minsk Agreements signed at the time to ensure peace were later, according to Angela Merkel, just tactics used to buy time to build the Ukraine to take on Russia. The US controls NATO and NATO is now in a war with Russia. We should not be involved - the Deep State wants their WWIII and they are working to start one.
It's a bloodbath for the Ukraine regardless. They are losing - our State Department and MSM just lie and claim they can win. They are conscripting kids down to 16 years of age and men to age 60 and they are going to grind down every last one of them rather than surrender. Zelensky is not Ukrainian, he's Moldovian. It's nothing to him if he keeps shoveling Ukrainians into the wood chipper. This IS a bloodbath and the Ukraine citizens who haven't already fled are caught in the middle.
We're not just giving the Ukraine weapons - we are giving them the personnel to operate those weapons. Russia knows it's fighting NATO (i.e., The United States); this does not help the US in any way.
If he tried to withdraw Hungary from NATO, then NATO might invade it.
At the very least, it would move up the date for the CIA's color revolution.
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