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South Africa's naval exercise with Russia, China raises Western alarm
Reuters ^ | February 17, 2023 | Carien du Plessis, Nick Macfie

Posted on 02/16/2023 9:37:44 PM PST by familyop

South Africa's governing African National Congress has long-standing ties to Moscow, which supported its struggle against a racist apartheid regime that many Western states considered a Cold War ally...said Cobus van Staden of the China-Global South Project. As Russia and China now seek to build new international coalitions, he said that history is coming to the fore in Africa where some nations are keen for alternatives to Western hegemony.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: carienduplessis; commiesgangingup; martofnations; nickmacfie; redchina; rooters; southafrica; toobadsosad
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1 posted on 02/16/2023 9:37:45 PM PST by familyop
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To: familyop

Is South Africa western?


2 posted on 02/16/2023 9:42:32 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: familyop

Reuters makes excuses for their embrace of the new totalitarian world order. Lovely. Communists love racism, it lets them go wild.


3 posted on 02/16/2023 9:45:54 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: familyop

Now that’s strange. I mean, if Russia is unreasonable to get nervous about what Ukraine right there on it’s border is doing, why would DC care about what South Africa 8000 miles away is doing?

Doublethink.


4 posted on 02/16/2023 9:49:22 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: NorseViking

Well, I am sure the ANC is in -some- sort of alliance with the Democrat party.


5 posted on 02/16/2023 9:50:39 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: familyop

I’m curious about the crew of these ships…..


6 posted on 02/16/2023 10:01:46 PM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: DesertRhino

russia was/is not nervous about Ukraine at all.

russia invaded Ukraine to increase its “empire”


7 posted on 02/16/2023 10:20:08 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: familyop
Elon Musk was born in Pretoria, South Africa. No wonder he's a Russian agent.
8 posted on 02/16/2023 10:22:58 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: familyop

The ANC (African National Congress) been running South Africa for the last 30 years.

The ANC has had a political and activist alliance with the South African Communist Party since 1961.

The ANC also has a political alliance with the Congress of South African Trade Unions.

The current President recently signed legislation that empowers the government to confiscate white owned property without compensation.

Not hard to guess where all this is going.


9 posted on 02/16/2023 10:39:07 PM PST by zeestephen (43,000)
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To: familyop

My what progress South Africa has experienced since Apartheid. That Mandella sure was a visionary.


10 posted on 02/16/2023 10:49:42 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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First I’ve heard of the “Belt and Road Initiative”!
I ought to be in Sleepy Joe’s administration!


11 posted on 02/17/2023 12:34:36 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In the conflict between the stone and the stream, the stream will always prevail.)
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The ANC was taken overlong ago by the South Africa Communist Party (SACP). It has never been democratic.

The Sen. Internal Security Subcommittee, Sen. Judiciary Comm., held very important and penetrating hearings on the ANC/SACP in the early 1980s before it was abolished by the Democrats.

It included testimony by two former ANC high ranking members. One Democrat senator purposely revealed the true identity of one of the witnesses which allowed the communists to assassinate him.

Unfortunately I don’t have immediate access to the 2 volumes hearings right now but it should be on the internet if you are interested to learn what was in them and who the Democrat betrayed was.


12 posted on 02/17/2023 12:45:40 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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“Is South Africa western?”

Well, it WAS...but 30 years ago, I remarked to a visiting white South African to move away.

There are still traces of Western culture and industry, but the outlook is DOOM!


13 posted on 02/17/2023 12:55:57 AM PST by Does so (What distinguishes today's Russian aggression from that of the USSR?)
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To: NorseViking

They are joking BRICS.


14 posted on 02/17/2023 4:20:30 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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“South Africa’s naval exercise with Russia, China raises Western alarm”

Funny, I thought the Neocon Cheerleaders were telling us that “Russia is Isolated”. Seems to me like their Rolodex is growing, while the West’s is shrinking.


15 posted on 02/17/2023 4:28:34 AM PST by BobL
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“Is South Africa western?”

They once were Western...but then the West told them how to run things and they’re now through with us.


16 posted on 02/17/2023 4:29:34 AM PST by BobL
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To: familyop

China is well on its way to successfully colonizing Africa even today.


17 posted on 02/17/2023 5:08:02 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
I've visited South Africa several times...most recently about 5 years ago. Today you can find pockets of Western affluence near large cities...and you still see vestiges of Western modernity left over from when whites ruled the country (roads,buildings,etc). But even today you are *never* far away from African poverty reminiscent of what I've seen in Kenya,Tanzania,Malawi and Mozambique.

And for that matter central Johannesburg is totally Third World right now. Buildings that 30 years ago were sturdy,modern and attractive are all being occupied by Third World people and they all look like something you'd see in a war zone.

18 posted on 02/17/2023 5:17:58 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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Looks like they threw out the baby with the bath water.


19 posted on 02/17/2023 5:48:35 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

“Soviet, East German and Cuban Involvement in Fomenting Terrorism in Southern Africa - Report of the Chairman of the Subcommittee on Security and Terrorism to the U S Senate Committee on the Judiciary, November 1982”.


20 posted on 02/17/2023 10:16:30 PM PST by Fedora
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