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Colonel Knutov compared the plan of the spring offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Crimea with the Tatar-Mongol invasion
Moskovskij Komsomolets ^ | 2/16/2023 | Daria Fedotova

Posted on 02/16/2023 10:02:57 AM PST by Zhang Fei

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To: Zhang Fei

“....and attacked the emerging “kulaks”

Spoken like a communist


21 posted on 02/16/2023 11:22:47 AM PST by FreshPrince
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To: Williams

You blindly hate Russia/Putin and to hell with the consequences and how many lives are lost.

Your kind of thinking is going to get the continental United States nuked. You and the Biden handlers/New World Order/WEF.


22 posted on 02/16/2023 11:25:28 AM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: FreshPrince

Bidens handlers will not allow peace negotiations. So Ukraine is between a rock and a hard place in a hopeless situation.


23 posted on 02/16/2023 11:28:55 AM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Williams

Ahahaha laughable. Crimea River. Laughing my Azov.


24 posted on 02/16/2023 11:33:29 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Williams

Calm down, FRiend.

You wrote: They are training with Bradley’s

I inferred that you were implying they were not just training with Bradleys, but were going to use some in battle. I wondered how many they would use, because it might make a difference.

And as a matter of fact, I don’t “like” anything about this war, including the lack of credible information.


25 posted on 02/16/2023 11:34:17 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: laplata
Bidens handlers will not allow peace negotiations.

I read that, as well.

26 posted on 02/16/2023 11:35:09 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: FlyingEagle

This guy better be careful or they’ll cut his Knutov.


27 posted on 02/16/2023 11:35:34 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
This guy better be careful or they’ll cut his Knutov.


28 posted on 02/16/2023 11:38:26 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: 1Old Pro

Well played old chap.


29 posted on 02/16/2023 11:46:49 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: FlyingEagle

I can Nazi what’s so funny.


30 posted on 02/16/2023 11:49:13 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Jeff Chandler
I am not disputing that number, but could you support it with a citation?

Only those doing the fighting are giving figures - and true confirmatory studies or facts simply do not exist. I'm not publishing an academic article, only trying to make a reasonable guess for a social-media board. My method:

The first question is: what's the ratio of killed to wounded? A "rule of thumb" figure is 1:3. It may be higher or lower

For example, the Donets Peoples Republic (DPR) reported as of 26 May, 2022 that they had 1,912 soldiers killed and 7,919 wounded (a 1:4.14 killed-wounded ratio). Zelensky gave figures last year indicating Ukraine's was a 1:5 ratio.

You can Google these yourself and decide who you trust.

Regarding total killed:

the Head of the EU in November said "100K Ukraine Military Officers have been killed." We assume she means soldiers (she also mentioned 20K civilians). The Russians claim Ukraine KIA is twice that number. The Ukrainians (and FR posters) claim the exact same thing about the Russians.

Again, whose figures do you trust? But most sources are saying KIA on both sides is 100K or more. What do you think is possible - given 1000-mile front, at least 750K men fighting directly, and the greatest expenditure of artillery since WWII?

We can only make an educated guess.

31 posted on 02/16/2023 11:49:24 AM PST by PGR88 (, )
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To: Jeff Chandler

Ok please accept my apology. I have gleaned that the troops are training with Bradley’s (and I assume other mechanized equipment) and will be ready by May. I don’t have a number on the Bradleys.
I discussed this with someone who had experience with armor deployed in Europe, and they expressed the opinion that a force like that can begin to push the Russians out.
When I expressed some skepticism, they mentioned Russia’s logistical difficulties, and seemed quite confident of the impact of a force of this nature.
I’ve seen videos of Ukrainians training with Bradley’s somewhere in Europe, and read articles about the advice America is giving on launching mobile attacks.
The Russians are trying to make gains before this happens, and maybe they will. However, the issues Russia is having with the Wagner group are fascinating and maybe the Russian offensive will be blunted.
Even if Russia advances, unless they take Kiev I’m sure the new units will be introduced in an effort to turn back the Russian offensive.
As much as I’d like to see Russia defeated, I generally agree the war needs to end. How best to achieve that is a very good question.


32 posted on 02/16/2023 12:05:36 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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Ok please accept my apology.

Of course.

I have tried not to take sides because I acknowledge my own ignorance, and even though I have posted articles about the war, they are only for perusal; I don't vouch for their validity.

33 posted on 02/16/2023 12:29:29 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: laplata

Ukraine has stated that it will enter into no peace negotiations if it requires giving up land.


34 posted on 02/16/2023 12:55:28 PM PST by FreshPrince
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To: Jeff Chandler

400k is plausible if one includes wounds like John Kerry’s in Vietnam. ;-)


35 posted on 02/16/2023 1:45:46 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Williams

Yes, I suspect Col. Knutov’s analogy to actual battlefield tactics used by the Mongols, as opposed to the average ignoramus’ vision of same (well represented on FR, I’m afraid), is reasonably accurate.


36 posted on 02/16/2023 1:56:22 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Williams

Whups, accidentally posted too soon / incompletely. Completed:

Yes, I suspect Col. Knutov’s analogy to actual battlefield tactics used by the Mongols, as opposed to the average ignoramus’ vision of same (well represented on FR, I’m afraid), starts off reasonably accurately, but then being a typical Russian officer he cannot help but embellish using the Kremlin’s propaganda.


37 posted on 02/16/2023 2:03:15 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Zhang Fei

On anoher thread, a prominent American news paper declared the Russian military in the field is dysfunctional.

Russian forces lack the functional wherewithal to hold the Crimea


38 posted on 02/16/2023 2:07:09 PM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day )
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To: Williams
They won't succeed if the Russians control the skies. If Ukraine sends that many new soldiers to the front there will be a lot of dead people on both sides. I don't think we can produce the weapons they need to sustain such an offensive. I guess we will see what happens in the near future.
39 posted on 02/16/2023 2:10:46 PM PST by Rdct29 (Democrats are the new Nazi's. They think they deserve total control over the people)
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To: laplata

I don’t blindly do anything.
I’d be happy to see Russia and USA cooperate.
You however jump to a lot of conclusions.


40 posted on 02/16/2023 2:30:57 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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