At least 31 vehicles lost - the aftermath of the Russian attack on Vuhledar
Posted on 02/15/2023 3:51:47 PM PST by Timber Rattler
As Russia steps up its offensive in eastern Ukraine, weeks of failed attacks on a Ukrainian stronghold have left two Russian brigades in tatters, raised questions about Moscow’s military tactics and renewed doubts about its ability to maintain sustained, large-scale ground assaults.
The fighting has also come at a cost for Ukraine, which is expending vast amounts of ammunition to repel Russia’s growing numbers of ground troops, often supported by heavy armor, artillery and close air support. That has added urgency to Ukraine’s pleas for more ammunition, while Western allies this week expressed increasing concern about their ability to meet the demand.
The battle around the Ukrainian city of Vuhledar, which sits at the intersection of the eastern front in the Donetsk region and the southern front in the Zaporizhzhia region, is viewed as one of Moscow’s opening moves of a nascent spring offensive. Though it has been playing out for weeks, the scale of Russia’s losses is only beginning to come into focus.
Accounts from Ukrainian and Western officials, Ukrainian soldiers, captured Russian soldiers, Russian military bloggers, and video and satellite images all paint a picture of a faltering Russian campaign that continues to be plagued by dysfunction.
Moscow has rushed tens of thousands more troops, many of them inexperienced new recruits, to the front line in recent weeks as President Vladimir V. Putin’s forces seek to demonstrate progress before the anniversary of his full-scale invasion on Feb. 24.
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At least 31 vehicles lost - the aftermath of the Russian attack on Vuhledar
I can’t make any sense out of the conflicting reports from the war, so I assume it’s all propaganda.
Which is the case for pretty much any war.
Yeah, yeah…thoughts and prayers.
Russia is losing so badly that we need to keep sending Ukraine billions of dollars and weaponry because of Russia., who’s losing badly.
A brigade consists of a few battalions and anywhere from 3,000 to 5,000 soldiers. A colonel is generally in command. For historical reasons, armor and Ranger units of brigade size are called regiments, and the equivalent Special Forces units are called groups.
Perspective . . .
. . . commonly referred to as the Russian Armed Forces, are the military of Russia. In terms of active-duty personnel, they are the world’s fifth-largest military force, with 1.15 million and at least two million reserve personnel.
putin doesn’t care about russian lives
he’s only serving his own negative ego
putin is an evil man
Russia is loosing precisely because we are sending weapons to Ukraine. Why is that so hard to understand?
It takes a lot of ammo (and replacement guns) to make the Russians continue to lose. That stuff gets used up you know. So praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.
This would be interesting if it were a different source than the New York Times.
“I can’t make any sense out of the conflicting reports from the war, so I assume it’s all propaganda.”
Same here. I keep saying essentially the same thing.
Also, as several other commenters have asked: If Russia is already defeated why does Ukraine still need Abrams/Leopard/Challenger tanks, Patriot missile systems, F-16s and another $45 billion from us?
| In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Heavy Losses Renew Questions About Russia Sustaining Its Offensive, Petrosius wrote: |
| Russia is losing so badly that we need to keep sending Ukraine billions of dollars and weaponry because of Russia., who’s losing badly. Russia is loosing precisely because we are sending weapons to Ukraine. Why is that so hard to understand? |
Russia is not losing. The West is walking back some promises for weapons, most of which are not going to arrive for many months. The disinfo is heavy - but the most recent briefing NATO gently admitted the West can't keep up (manufacturing bullets) with Ukrainian demand. The head of the Ukrainian military admitted that NATO doesn't have enough weapons to give him that he would require for winning. This keeps being said, soldiers keep dying. Rinse and repeat.
One problem in Ukraine is that the Ukes are using their guns very hard. They are shooting too much ammo out of too few barrels.
The US has a very large surplus supply of artillery systems, mainly M109’s, that have barely been touched. I certainly would prioritize sending that.
“putin doesn’t care about russian lives”
Link please.
I haven’t believed a word from either side since day one. It’s funny to see how worked up people get about it, though.
Do you have any idea of the men and material that was needed to constantly be pumped into the front lines in order to win World War II?
Why would you think that the winning side can do it on a shoe string and doesn’t need a lot of munitions? That doesn’t make any sense. Especially if you are going to fight and win against a major European superpower like Russia. You aren’t going to do that with a Slingshot.Why would you think that the winning side can do it on a shoe string and doesn’t need a lot of munitions? That doesn’t make any sense. Especially if you are going to fight and win against a major European superpower like Russia. You aren’t going to do that with a Slingshot.
Wait, I thought the same sources already declared that Putin had Stage 4++ cancer already, ten times over?
I’m confused.
Exactly. If the NYT isn’t pushing global warming, cannibalism, and mass-suicide of the elderly, they’re pushing this ukraine meat grinder.
Why don’t these uke-chearleaders post stories from more reputable sources (like from that list of blacklisted conservative & alt-media websites that was just made public)? All we get from them is fake news CNN, NYT, WP, and DM...
War is a process, a condition, not a discrete point. It’s a dynamic contest. Equipment and ammo and men are used up. One side can be winning, but if not supplied it will stop winning, and lose.
This really shouldn’t be that hard to understand.
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