Posted on 02/14/2023 4:22:43 PM PST by dennisw
Bergen: What are the lessons of the Ukraine War for the future of warfare?
Petraeus: I think we should recognize that, with a few exceptions, Ukraine is not the future of warfare. In large measure, it is what we would have seen had the Cold War turned hot in the mid-1980s โ with largely Cold War weapons systems (albeit with some modernization).
We are, however, seeing some glimpses and hints of what the future of warfare might look like. We see the Ukrainian use of drones (of only modest range and capability) as aerial observers identifying Russian headquarters and other targets for the precision munitions the US has provided (which will double in range from 70-80 kilometers to 150 kilometers when the just announced US precision munitions arrive in Ukraine).
We see the impact of sophisticated, western-provided fire-and-forget shoulder-launched anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles. We have seen the impact of select use of medium-range anti-ship missiles. And we have seen use of offensive cyber capabilities, though not with enormous success, by the Russians.
Perhaps most notably, of course, we see a war taking place, for the first time, in a context that includes the widespread presence of smart phones, internet connectivity, and social media and other internet sites.
But, again, these are just hints of what the future of war between advanced powers would be. In such a conflict, the intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance systems would be incomparably more capable; precision munitions would have vastly greater range, speed and explosive power.
And there would incomparably greater numbers of vastly more capable unmanned systems (some remotely piloted, others operating according to algorithms) in every domain โ not just in the air, but also at sea, sub-sea, on the ground, in outer space, and in cyberspace, and operating in swarms, not just individually!
And every intelligence and strike capability will be integrated and connected by advanced command, control, communications and computer systems.
He ignores the strong potential for a negotiated conclusion, should the current Kiev regime be replaced by level headed leaders.
Its the new Iraq/afghanistan.
The losers are defeated by the winners. DOH! Now I get it. ๐๐
Petreus is lying as usual. The Ukrainians have nearly run out of men and roughly 30% of the entire population has fled. The Ukraine is dead but the head doesn’t know it yet.
putin/russia are losers every day since last February
cruel, brutal, evil losers
May they reap what they sow!
Where is the ‘war god’ Mad Dog Mattis in all this ? Has he opined on the war ?
I agree that he’s lying. Ukraine is done. It may take some time but that country is devastated and Russia is going to take what it wants. The more we “help”, the worse things will be for Ukraine.
What a goofy-looking Gomer...
Out of the size of their population, they have mobilized only a small fraction of that historically mobilized in other countries on a total war basis. France kept 3 million men+ under arms continuously in 1914-18.
The limit on mobilization in their case is a lack of armaments, notably heavy weapons, and of supporting institutional infrastructure, such as cadre of officers and ncos and trainers.
Casualties are only a small factor, historically, in the size of mobilization, with few exceptions. The ones that come to mind are Germany in WW1 and 2, the Soviet Union in WW2, and Paraguay in the 19th century.
The USSR was far more devastated, not to speak of Germany in WW2, or Korea in 1951 or North Vietnam. Being “devastated” is not a decisive factor in itself. And less so if one has rich friends.
He married into a political family when he wed wife Holly. Everyone in Centcom knew he was sport screwing this โbiographerโ war tourist.
โRules for thee not for meโ. The unofficial motto of perfumed princes everywhere.
Kudos to his surviving being shot by his own troops but spare me the Patton-esque comparisons.
RLTW
Tough to serve under the perfumed princes.
War will end when Trump is elected.
Petraeus: It is not Russia.
Translation: Russia
Wow,....how insightful Mr P.
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All the T.V. generals have come out to claim victory for Ukraine. There must be some bad poll numbers out there for supporting this war.
I believe everything gen betrayus says
Compromised weasel stooge who’s opinion means squat
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