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An update on the balloon saga: A major piece of the payload that was hanging under the balloon has been recovered
Hotair ^ | 02/13/2023 | John Sexton

Posted on 02/13/2023 8:39:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: noiseman

It could also have been recording, not transmitting data and the Chinese or their surrogates or fishing boats were expecting to recover the balloon at sea or some distant place after it transitted the US and made a preprogrammed controlled descent, and get their information that way.


41 posted on 02/14/2023 4:27:49 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: volunbeer
This image was smuggled out in a small flashdrive yesterday.

The original is in full color with GPS co-ordinates intact and 12 M resolution.

This smaller lack-and-white has the Top Secret details removed so the public can understand the enormity of the situation.



42 posted on 02/14/2023 4:31:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DannyTN

The Chinese, Russians, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, and Cuba have been cooperating for years, especially well since 2008 and the Silk Road project. Some of these objects could be Russian.


43 posted on 02/14/2023 4:32:26 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Jim Noble

My guess…. I don’t have a lot to go on. Early on in the South Carolina saga, I saw some amateur photos and news mentions that give me some opinions.

Re. the Sidewinder taking down the Carolina balloon, I saw a picture of the balloon after the missile hit that showed a chunk of the balloon fabric missing. Yes, that loss of lift brought the balloon down. No, the Sidewinder did not blow anything up. I have the impression that it was more like the kinetic energy of the sidewinder grazing the edge of the balloon and just disintegrated off a chunk of fabric.


44 posted on 02/14/2023 4:40:58 AM PST by Hootowl99
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To: noiseman

It’s not transmitting down to the cell network from 60k feet. It’s obviously using satellite uplink, and no, the satellite doesn’t have to be in geosynchronous orbit.


45 posted on 02/14/2023 5:54:07 AM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Wonder how many NORAD weather balloons continue to drift around after their useful life expires? Wonder how many of the mystery balloons being shot down by Crazy Joe are old NORAD balloons?


46 posted on 02/14/2023 6:08:52 AM PST by Flint
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To: Dixie Yooper

That was tried before years ago and didn’t work. This balloon was 200 ft tall from all reports so imagine a balloon the size of a 20 story building and how many holes it would take to bring it down where you want it. I’m thinking thousand and thousands of rounds, multiple flights of high altitude fighters that would have to land to reload. Maybe we could figure out how to do a mid-air reload but I doubt it.


47 posted on 02/14/2023 6:39:03 AM PST by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: SeekAndFind
Equipment required to spray updated Wuhan flu virus from Chinese balloon...


48 posted on 02/14/2023 7:06:01 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: SeekAndFind

so much for the SpaceForce...


49 posted on 02/14/2023 7:55:34 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: SeekAndFind

So far it looks like the balloon has been recovered, but what about the payload?


50 posted on 02/14/2023 7:55:55 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Jim Noble

20lbs blast fragmentation warhead...enough to blow the wing off a jet.


51 posted on 02/14/2023 7:58:31 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind

In regard to the small objects, a sidewinder is pretty expensive compared to a radiosonde.


52 posted on 02/14/2023 8:13:38 AM PST by GingisK
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To: doorgunner69
That massive black square underneath a portion of the white balloon sitting atop it IS part of the payload (electronics suite) of that balloon. Quite large and VERY heavy looking..

I would suspect that the F-22 pilot would do a target acquisition lock on the balloon itself and fire a sidewinder that has been detuned with minimal explosive, just enough to destroy the balloon without obliterating the payload.

53 posted on 02/14/2023 8:55:23 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: The Great RJ

RE: So far it looks like the balloon has been recovered, but what about the payload?

Read the article ( and the title ).


54 posted on 02/14/2023 9:22:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: doorgunner69

It says ‘windy today with clouds’.


55 posted on 02/14/2023 10:37:13 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (D.I.S.T.R.A.C.T.I.O.N.S.)
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To: buwaya

“I believe the warhead was defused on these sidewinder”

Why would you believe that?


56 posted on 02/14/2023 2:03:41 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: doorgunner69

I saw a report mentioning it at the time. Went looking but didn’t find it.

I believe it could be correct. The intention could have been to limit damage to preserve as much as possible for recovery.


57 posted on 02/14/2023 2:56:16 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Dixie Yooper

Not at 60k feet


58 posted on 02/16/2023 11:48:08 AM PST by newbie 10-21-00
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