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Volodymyr Zelensky: Not Exactly A Champion Of Democracy
19fortyfive ^ | 02/06/2023 | Ted Carpenter

Posted on 02/08/2023 10:35:04 AM PST by thegagline

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To: 2banana

Closed Churches
‘Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has announced new measures seeking to ban religious institutions deemed to have links with Russia. He said the move is intended to safeguard the nation’s “spiritual independence” amid Kiev’s conflict with Moscow.’
https://www.rt.com/russia/567520-ukraine-crackdown-russia-churches/


21 posted on 02/08/2023 11:23:34 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: 2banana
• Banned all opposition political parties

It would help if you read the posted article, which says Zelensky has used the war as a justification for outlawing 11 opposition parties.

22 posted on 02/08/2023 11:30:05 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: freedumb2003
Sadly some of those idiots post here as well.

We are inundated with them. It is pathetic the number of those we have here who parrot Biden, AOC, the squad, Lindsay Graham, the MSM, every Democrat, woke idiot and deep stater in Congress. These are the Neocon couch potato war hawk's bedfellows. Sadly, this group does not realize that when you look around and see that those on the same side as you would normally be your enemies, that it would be wise to try and think about why this is...

Our administration's actions in Ukraine have zero to do with what is morally correct, what is good for the Ukrainian people, fighting Soviet expansionism, or what is good for the US or Europe's population. This is all about turning Ukraine into the largest money laundering scheme in the history of the world. There is no accountability, No one can tell you where most of the $Billions and $Billions of taxpayer funds are going.

But this is only a small slice of the pie, even more is making its way back into Putin's hands through higher prices for Russia's energy exports. Russia made over $100 Billion more on just their energy exports when we compare 2021 to 2022. Putin is one of the primary beneficiaries of this giant scam. This entire mess is the ultimate in stupidity.

23 posted on 02/08/2023 11:30:10 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: .30Carbine

So a church that existed for thousands of years in the land of “Ukraine” is banned, destroyed and priests Arrested.

AND YOU SUPPORT IT.

Yes, you are the baddie. Either you got religious freedom or you dont.


24 posted on 02/08/2023 11:32:43 AM PST by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: Tench_Coxe

“I don’t know about you, but a few of them leave the impression that the “pro-Ukie” sentiment doesn’t extend to average person living in Ukraine.”
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Yeah if they actually cared for the Ukrainian people they would want to end this thing as soon as possible. An entire generation of young Ukrainian men are being wiped out and the country destroyed. How can anybody who’s supposedly pro-Ukrainian ignore this?


25 posted on 02/08/2023 11:47:07 AM PST by jimwatx
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To: Alberta's Child
I wouldn’t waste a moment of my time dealing with some guy who plays the piano with his d!ck.

OK, but what if he could play Chopsticks with it?

26 posted on 02/08/2023 12:16:59 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: thegagline

>>They may be actually one person posting under several accounts.<<

ChatGPT goes on the offensive?

Sadly we get these sock puppets more frequently than we deserve.


27 posted on 02/08/2023 12:31:46 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Difference between a cow and the US Capitol 1/6 "riot:" you can only milk a cow 3 times a day)
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To: thegagline

I’m confident that if some Ukrainian Rabbis were supporting Russia, Zelensky would have them arrested or shot. And if the Orthodox Church stopped supporting Russia, they wouldn’t have any problem with Zelensky. It’s about a national life or death struggle and nothing else.


28 posted on 02/08/2023 12:32:20 PM PST by devere
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To: Magnatron
"That's okay, neither are his fans the fascist leftists and Democrats..."

Lots of Zelensky buttsniffing supporters here on FR as well.

29 posted on 02/08/2023 12:36:27 PM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: tlozo
No churches are closed, they simply cannot be affiliated with the Russian Orthodox Church...

You agree that they don't have freedom of worship? I would think that the people attending worship at these now 'un-closed' churches were attending to their freedom of worship knowing that they were affiliating with the Russian Orthodox, which is now forbidden. That doesn't sound very democracy like to me. How are your kind going to react when the State here starts selecting which flavor of Christianity is worthy of our support, worship and counsel? You know it's coming. From your repeated postings of how good this is for The Ukraine I can only assume you will be cheering it on when it hits US.

30 posted on 02/08/2023 1:02:05 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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To: BlackbirdSST
That doesn't sound very democracy like to me.

The head of the Russian Orthodox Church Patriarch Kirill of Moscow is Putin's lap dog.

31 posted on 02/08/2023 1:11:33 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: tlozo
The head of the Russian Orthodox Church Patriarch Kirill of Moscow is Putin's lap dog.

I'm sure the people attending that church were cognizant of that. So no freedom of worship for them. Uke democracy in action. I'm sure we can find a few questionable church leaders right here in the good ole USA. Let's take 'em down. I can expect you to cheer it on.

32 posted on 02/08/2023 1:46:10 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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I'm sure we can find a few questionable church leaders right here in the good ole USA. Let's take 'em down. I can expect you to cheer it on.

Right, a church leader cheerleading Putin's invasion and attempted eradication of Ukraine is just like a "few questionable church leaders right here in the good ole USA". Whatever

33 posted on 02/08/2023 1:58:37 PM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: tlozo
Right, a church leader cheerleading Putin's invasion and attempted eradication of Ukraine is just like a "few questionable church leaders right here in the good ole USA". Whatever

I'm sure we can find some of our church leaders who have done worse things. I'm also sure we can find more than a few that cheered our invasions of many sovereign States over the last few decades. Get your church shutting down pants on and get rolling. Maybe you are just presenting your selective outrage.

34 posted on 02/08/2023 2:18:29 PM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump WON!!! He will win 2024!)
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To: 2banana

“Originally installed in a violent coup in 2014 supported by the obama administration”

Wrong.

Zelensky was elected in 2019.

The violence was caused by the FSB and Spetsnaz that Putin sent in to prop up his little bitch Yanukovych.


35 posted on 02/08/2023 7:18:50 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying To All.)
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To: 2banana

You are the 2nd banana for sure.


36 posted on 02/09/2023 3:29:12 PM PST by .30Carbine
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To: thegagline
Zelensky is shutting down Muscovite Orthodox propoganda centers. The Russian Orthodox Church has been controlled by the KGB since he 1940s, when Stalin restarted it. Comrade Patriarch Kiril was a KGB asset.
We didn't allow Shinto Temples to promote Japan after Pearl Harbor
37 posted on 02/09/2023 9:44:15 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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