Posted on 02/07/2023 10:20:26 PM PST by familyop
Your gaslighting is tiresome. Go read Putin’s New Year’s address where he talks about the need to restore full sovereignty to historical Russia.
“Your gaslighting is tiresome. Go read Putin’s New Year’s address where he talks about the need to restore full sovereignty to historical Russia.”
Your FLAT-OUT LYING is even worse - go point us to where he talks about restoration of the SOVIET UNION, which was the CLAIM that was made here.
“These are new production South Korean K2 tanks. “
Perhaps, but we cleaned out their 155mm, and why, since they will have no impact in Ukraine.
US is not going to get into a year long artillery battle with North Korea in case of war. Its going to use cruise missiles, ATACM's, establish air superiority and shock and awe the North Korean military from the air.
The boundaries of the Soviet Union and Imperial Russia, with the exception of Poland and Finland, were practically the same. You are correct that Putin doesn’t want to restore the failed Communist system, but he does want to restore Russia to the same territory, which is the point.
Thank you for that link, I hadn’t seen that one before. There is overwhelming evidence that Putin’s obsession with restoring “historical Russia” is what is driving this war.
On the contrary. Our understanding of the facts are based on recorded international treaties going back over the last fifty years.
Russia’s “facts” are based on taking the Baker and Bush assurances totally out of context, and Putin/Dugin having written meandering op-ed “philosophical” pieces that are little more than manifestos for Russian aggression based on nostalgia and paranoia.
NATO never has and never will invade Russia. NATO agreed with Russia on all the international treaties that explain which lands are Russia. We also agreed with Russia that Ukraine is not Russia. Belarus is not Russia. The Donbas is not Russia. Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are not Russia. And so on.
Russia’s only valid red line is NATO incursion into Russia. We know the score on that point. So we won’t cross it.
Putin should be far more worried about Georgia, Ukraine, Chechnya or one of the ‘Stans marching on Moscow than NATO ever doing it. And let’s face it; after the way Putin’s treated them already, nobody would shed a tear for Putin if they did.
But no, he’s obsessed about an existential threat from a security alliance that hasn’t threatened Russia once in the entire time Russia has existed as a modern independent nation state.
You know, not entirely. Another important part of attaining peace is not to have a goal of complete global domination. It’s more than just making yourself the most frightening menace the world has ever seen.
It’s also not being an a-hole nation.
“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”
—Friedrich Nietzsche.
If the Czar was still in power, Putin would have worked for the Okhrana.
If he was an American, he would have been FBI or CIA.
Yep.
“The boundaries of the Soviet Union and Imperial Russia, with the exception of Poland and Finland, were practically the same.”
So now you’ve PROVEN that you don’t know geography.
“US is not going to get into a year long artillery battle with North Korea in case of war.”
Then why did we have 155s there?
“Putin is a former KGB agent, but I don’t think he’s a Communist. He doesn’t want to restore Soviet-era economics or Marxism – that’s a straw man you’ve invented.”
You’ve got me mixed up with the professionals here - I agree 100% with what you said.
Actually, Russia as always needs a defensive buffer. That’s what the Iron Curtain was. Presently Ukraine is all that is available.
Turns out, the world will not allow Ukraine as a buffer. Mother Russia is just screwed
OK, Bright Eyes, with the exception of the loss of Finland and the Kingdom of Poland (also known as Congress Poland), how did the boundaries of the USSR differ substantially from that of Imperial Russia?
Why should any country allow itself to be used for another country? Should Ukraine have a buffer from Russia?
Your’s is an interesting thought.
The operative word is allow. Ukraine is seemingly not allowing Russia to use Ukranian territory as the buffer. Russia must be thrown out
It looks like the situation may be boiling down to the Sepratist regions and Crimea. The question becomes does Ukraine have the military capability to retake it all?
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