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Ukrainians are united in rejection of any compromise with the Kremlin
Atlantic Council ^ | 6th February 2023 | Maria Zolkina

Posted on 02/07/2023 8:37:34 PM PST by Cronos

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To: ransomnote

Anything coming out of the Atlantic Council is NATO talking.


21 posted on 02/07/2023 9:11:03 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: Sunsong

One who puts the interests of American citizens first, not moralizing abstractions, multinational institutions or foreign nations.


22 posted on 02/07/2023 9:11:16 PM PST by robowombat ( )
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To: caww

“The scale of this war is out of proportion with all of our recent thinking,” said Cavoli, who is also head of US European Command. “But it is real and we must contend with it.”
One lesson is the importance of an adequate defense industrial base capable of providing the necessary equipment and supplies to satisfy the voracious appetite of large-scale, high-intensity warfare. The US, Russia, and Europe are already scrambling to ramp up production of artillery shells after letting their munitions stockpiles and factories run down after the Cold War.

“Production capacity remains vital, absolutely vital,” Cavoli said. “A healthy and elastic defense industrial base is just as important” as the number of troops.

Cavoli also took aim at the belief — until recently touted by Germany and other countries — that soft power has become a substitute for military power.

“Hard power is a reality,” Cavoli said, adding that diplomacy, cyber-warfare, and economic strength are important, “but the great irreducible feature of warfare is hard power, and we have to be good at it.”

“If the other guy shows up with a tank, you better have a tank,” Cavoli said.

Interestingly, Cavoli pointed to Ukraine’s surprising battlefield successes as evidence that “precision can beat mass.” But there’s a catch: It takes time for quality to beat quantity, and “that time is usually bought with space.


23 posted on 02/07/2023 9:12:17 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: canuck_conservative

LOL

oops, loss of credibility...


24 posted on 02/07/2023 9:12:21 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Sunsong

Where did you get the idea it would take three days?


25 posted on 02/07/2023 9:13:24 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Reno89519
Fine, let them go to their deaths on their own, not withour money, arms, and blood.

A typical, hate filled response to Patriots from someone who is a pure degenerate who has long become anti-American, as most Putinists openly now admit. Would that Americans loved their country the way Ukrainians love theirs.

26 posted on 02/07/2023 9:13:39 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: caww

Atlantic Council is to NATO as Sinn Fein was to the IRA.


27 posted on 02/07/2023 9:14:08 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

.....”The coup insisted that the Russian language and culture in the east had to be purged and destroyed”......

US/Nato wanted Donbass - rich resources there also that Kiev wants.


28 posted on 02/07/2023 9:14:11 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: DesertRhino

Yep....


29 posted on 02/07/2023 9:15:03 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: PGR88
Says the Atlantic Council
Says Rockefeller, FB, Pfizer, etc.: 2021 Honor roll of contributors
30 posted on 02/07/2023 9:16:07 PM PST by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: caww; All
Anything coming out of the Atlantic Council is NATO talking.

Anything coming out of Caww is Russian propaganda talking since at least 2014--he was even still trying to muddy the waters back then over the culprit of MH17 like the moral degenerate he is!

31 posted on 02/07/2023 9:16:12 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: robowombat

what, specifically, are the interests of ALL American citizens?

or are you speaking for yourself?

what is an example of a moralizing abstraction?

democracy? helping Turkey and Syria after a devastating earthquake?

what, specifically, do you mean?


32 posted on 02/07/2023 9:17:15 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

There you are! Always out to troll your boat on FR.


33 posted on 02/07/2023 9:18:05 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: DesertRhino
Everything would have been fine had they not started the ethnic cleansing, artillery and murders in the Donbass.

Which, of course, no independent observer in the area supports. The OSCE in fact reported the opposite--it was Russia attacking Ukraine with impunity for years.

But that doesn't stop DesertRhino from repeating the lie for the 100th time or so.

34 posted on 02/07/2023 9:18:11 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: caww
There you are! Always out to troll your boat on FR.

INB4 you begin to obsessively telling me how much you are ignoring my posts by spamming "I'm ignoring you! Nyah nyah nyah nyah!"

35 posted on 02/07/2023 9:19:00 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: DesertRhino

Huge fire broke out at a US drone factory in Latvia. The factory was supplying drones to NATO countries and Ukraine. (Video at link)

https://twitter.com/thatdayin1992/status/1623027874759381081?cxt=HHwWssG4-ZfQk4YtAAAA


36 posted on 02/07/2023 9:22:56 PM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: Sunsong
when do you predict russia will win?

This year.

37 posted on 02/07/2023 9:23:21 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Sunsong

Yes, anything that provides anything of value to a foreign state or nation. Because the US has air bases in Turkey offering aid to Turkey makes practical sense, although I would prefer the US uses the quake to remove all US military persons and equipment from Turkey. For, Syria, not a penny in aid.;Resisting aggression’ is a moralizing abstraction. What difference does it make to a real American if one foreign state attacks another. It is the foreigners problems, not ours. If one has a private interest in a foreign quarrel then spend ones wealth on it or volunteer to participate. It has nothing to do with people living in this country. If you believe the property, wealth. and lives of other Americans should be expended in some foreign quarrel than you are either a hypen or deluded and in no case a true American.


38 posted on 02/07/2023 9:26:16 PM PST by robowombat ( )
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To: Cronos

This whole article is nothing but laughable propaganda.


39 posted on 02/07/2023 9:26:34 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: robowombat

you are entitled to your opinion

I don’t agree with you


40 posted on 02/07/2023 9:28:37 PM PST by Sunsong
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