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Ukraine as Protectorate of the Polish State
Twitter ^ | 2/6/2023 | TrollStoy

Posted on 02/07/2023 7:01:29 PM PST by frithguild

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To: Jim Noble
Have the Poles over-reached AGAIN?

Again, I doubt this Twitter post is correct, that Morawiecki publicly stated this recently, although some such idea may have well been floated about at some point.

As for Poles over-reaching, Morawiecki has certainly got too big for his britches lately, lecturing the Germans over Ukraine and trying to set Poland up as a power broker. Now the Germans have thought for awhile that the Poles have been acting downright crazy over the Ukraine thing, but Morawiecki's latest remarks are really over the top.

It will be interesting to see how the Germans go about knocking him off his high horse. Most assuredly they will.

61 posted on 02/07/2023 9:19:50 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd

Germany needs to butt out, they have no room to say anything about Poland.


62 posted on 02/07/2023 9:21:39 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Jim Noble

Yes. Exactly.

Thank you.


63 posted on 02/07/2023 9:24:17 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: dfwgator

“The only way you would ever see Polish troops enter Western Ukraine is if the area was directly threatened by the Russians. And the Russians aren’t that stupid.”

Why?


64 posted on 02/07/2023 9:24:30 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: dfwgator

Germany hasn’t said anything about Poland that I can find.

Morawiecki has had a lot to say about how the Germans should do more for Ukraine and a bunch of over the top silly stuff about Ukraine being a bastion of freedom, Western civilization depending on it, etc.


65 posted on 02/07/2023 9:25:14 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Jim Noble

If I recall correctly, Lemberg and Lwow are two different names for Lviv.


66 posted on 02/07/2023 9:29:29 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: Jim Noble

give Lwów back to Poland.

Sure. Why not?


67 posted on 02/07/2023 9:36:26 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: MarMema

And then the Germans will want Danzig and Breslau back.

I don’t want to open up that can of worms.


68 posted on 02/07/2023 9:37:17 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: reg45

It was the Austrian city of Lemberg, then became the Polish city of Lwow, then Russified to Lvov under the Stalin-Hitler pact, then snatched back by Hitler (Lemberg again) then back to the USSR as Lvov, and finally renamed Lviv in 1991.


69 posted on 02/07/2023 9:37:18 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: wardaddy

https://t.me/StopHating_Russia/6303


70 posted on 02/07/2023 9:50:06 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: wardaddy; MarMema
He said a lot of really over-the-top stuff, but nothing like the Twitter guy claims that I could find.

Morawiecki announces a new world order without Russia. “Poland is ready to take co-responsibility”

71 posted on 02/07/2023 10:05:24 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd

His underwear has globalism symbols on it.

Just get right out there as pro-globalism.

Wonder why Polish farmers are upset?


72 posted on 02/07/2023 10:11:37 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: MarMema

I really like Poland and Polish people, but this guy has been grating on my nerves lately. He lectured the Germans in a high-and-mighty fashion, too. Which I imagine did not sit well.


73 posted on 02/07/2023 10:16:45 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: CatHerd

They want 1.3 trillion in reparations from Germany.


74 posted on 02/07/2023 10:17:54 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: canuck_conservative

https://t.me/heilukraine1959/1150


75 posted on 02/07/2023 10:18:10 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: MarMema

I know. It’s a pretty shaky case, legally, as best I understand it. The political opposition in Poland claims it’s a vote-buying scheme ahead of the next election. I am not up on Polish internal politics and don’t feel competent to comment on that.


76 posted on 02/07/2023 10:39:50 PM PST by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: dfwgator
The only way you would ever see Polish troops enter Western Ukraine…

They won’t have to invade

77 posted on 02/07/2023 11:19:54 PM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: MarMema

Tks


78 posted on 02/07/2023 11:21:33 PM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of lies)
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To: frithguild
“The western territories of Ukraine will be safe if they temporarily come under the protectorate of the Polish state.” Polish Prime Minister Matteusz Morawiecki.

The Germans want to know if they could get a piece of that. Mentioned something about having experience administering a Groß-Gouvernement.

Regards,

79 posted on 02/07/2023 11:42:09 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Mariner
This is a potential fallback position that has long been anticipated by Polish general staff planning. Even if Russia defeated Ukraine, it currently lacks the military power to fully occupy the country, so western Ukraine would become an ungoverned, resistant region with a raging partisan guerrilla war against Russia. When this happened after WW II, the southwest corner of Poland experienced a violent invasion by Ukrainian partisans affiliated with Ukrainian nationalist Stefan Bandera.

Moreover, despite Poland's NATO membership, Putin has made clear that after subduing Ukraine, he expects to dominate and bully Poland into neutrality or aligning with Russia. The Poles will not accept that and would prefer that the western region of Ukraine become a Polish protectorate and buffer statelet against a Russian invasion.

This may all seem implausible except that the long history of Eastern Europe includes episodes in which Poland, Sweden, Lithuania, Ukraine, and Russia in various combinations and alliances viewed for dominance. Notably, the current Polish generosity and good spirit toward Ukraine and the massive flow of Ukrainian refugees marks a putting aside of previous hostility -- and a rare instance in which a country seems to have learned from history.

80 posted on 02/08/2023 12:11:59 AM PST by Rockingham
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