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What Doctors Are Learning About Marijuana and Surgery
WSJ ^ | 6 February 2023 | Sumathi Reddy

Posted on 02/06/2023 6:27:53 AM PST by NautiNurse

People who use cannabis may need more anesthesia during procedures, but many remain wary of mentioning their habit

There’s a surprising side effect of a marijuana habit that many people don’t know: Regular users may need more anesthesia during medical procedures to remain sedated.

As more states allow people to smoke pot and eat edibles legally, more doctors say they are asking about marijuana use—and urging honesty—before surgeries or procedures because habitual users may need more anesthesia and painkillers. In one study, people who reported they used cannabis required more anesthesia than people who didn’t use it.

“It’s incredibly important to disclose your cannabis use to your anesthesiologist,” says Staci Gruber, director of the Marijuana Investigations for Neuroscientific Discovery (MIND) program at McLean Hospital in Belmont, Mass., who co-wrote a recent study in the journal Frontiers in Psychiatry looking at interactions between cannabis and other drugs.

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It isn’t clear if the anesthesia complication is largely limited to people who use THC, the main psychoactive component of marijuana and what causes the high, or also extends to people who take cannabidiol, or CBD.

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Some patients who were regular cannabis users needed two to three times the normal amount of the anesthetic propofol to stay under, he says. He and others in his practice also had to start adding other drugs sometimes used in sedation such as fentanyl and ketamine to maintain sedation for patients who were becoming restless during oral surgeries.

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Research on cannabis is scant, and often relies on self-reports, which aren’t always reliable.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: anesthesia; cannabis; marijuana; surgery
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"Regular users” = using cannabis more days than not.

Remember: Your experience is an anecdote.

1 posted on 02/06/2023 6:27:53 AM PST by NautiNurse
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To: NautiNurse
Some “regular” users of cannabis I knew wouldn't know if they were hit by a truck.
2 posted on 02/06/2023 6:37:49 AM PST by kickstart ("A gun is a tool. It is only as good or as bad as the man who uses it" . Alan Ladd in 'Shane' )
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To: kickstart

Can’t recall meeting a pothead who was an over-achiever.


3 posted on 02/06/2023 6:40:30 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: NautiNurse

Elon has done ok....


4 posted on 02/06/2023 6:44:38 AM PST by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: NautiNurse

I’d say using it once a month is “regular”.

Guess this is like the fact when you use drugs, you get too used to them. MJ is a depressant, so the effects of another are not enough anymore?

Anyway, who can put up the “ha ha” Nelson sign?


5 posted on 02/06/2023 6:52:09 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV.)
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To: NautiNurse

And always have a bag of Doritos handy in the OR.


6 posted on 02/06/2023 6:59:25 AM PST by albie
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

There you go. I’ve never met Elon Musk. Then again, Elon is an exception to more things than cannabis consumption.


7 posted on 02/06/2023 7:00:51 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: albie

Ha! Don’t know too many oral surgeons who will interrupt a procedure to suppress munchies. Too messy.


8 posted on 02/06/2023 7:02:58 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: NautiNurse

Golly! People who use narcotics need more narcotics to have the same effect? Excuse me, but as a long-term dope smoker, I’m skeptical. How much dope does one need to smoke in order to be considered a ‘chronic user?’How much anesthesia is considered normal for a person? How high does one need to get in order to be considered high? These seem very subjective and as such vulnerable to bias.

We need studies, lots and lots of studies confirming this claim before I can accept it. That’s because I suspect you have an agenda: you’re trying to institutionalize sobriety.


9 posted on 02/06/2023 7:04:54 AM PST by tsomer
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To: tsomer

Sorry dude, don’t pass the pipe around ... not inhaling!


10 posted on 02/06/2023 7:10:28 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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How much dope does one need to smoke in order to be considered a ‘chronic user?’

LOL--pothead observation skills. Check out definition in Post #1. As for anesthesia, there are well documented drug dosage ranges by body weight, liver function, etc. That's why anesthesiologists go to school for so many years.

Institutionalize sobriety? Not even close, but I can think of some ETOH and dope addicts who might benefit from withdrawal and rehab.

11 posted on 02/06/2023 7:12:32 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: NautiNurse

but I can think of some ETOH and dope addicts

Lots of MDs and RNs at AA and NA meetings, just saying .


12 posted on 02/06/2023 7:14:03 AM PST by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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Lots of MDs and RNs at AA and NA meetings, just saying .

Not sure what point you are trying to make. Plenty of high stress careers have people who get addicted to mind altering substances. You fault these people for getting help via AA and NA? Why?

13 posted on 02/06/2023 7:20:40 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: tsomer

Drug tolerance, requiring larger doses to achieve the same effect, is a well studied and documented phenomenon. If you are a long term user it’s very likely that you have to smoke more to achieve whatever result you seek. It’s basic science.


14 posted on 02/06/2023 7:23:29 AM PST by cbvanb
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To: NautiNurse

How did I fault them? Read into things much ? Lol


15 posted on 02/06/2023 7:23:39 AM PST by csvset (tolerance becomes a crime when attached to evil)
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To: csvset

Then share your point for the post. Just sayin’.


16 posted on 02/06/2023 7:26:37 AM PST by NautiNurse (There was a 2022 mid-term Red Wave...in Florida! )
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To: kickstart

WOW! Far Out! More anesthesia, wow, far out..............


17 posted on 02/06/2023 7:50:15 AM PST by Babba Gi
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To: Not_Who_U_Think

Imagine how far he could have gone if he eschewed the weed.
LOL


18 posted on 02/06/2023 7:53:17 AM PST by Honest Nigerian
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I got off “the farm” 41 years ago. Doctor told me to ALWAYS make anesthesiologists aware of my alcoholism and addictions whether I was clean and sober or had relapsed.

That being said, I always enjoy these threads as I get lessons on disingenuousness and passive aggression. Nobody beats a FReeper at these two endeavors. 🤕


19 posted on 02/06/2023 8:05:38 AM PST by Roccus (Veritas, non verba magistri)
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To: NautiNurse

With the growing acceptance of THC as a recreational drug, I expect a lot more is going to be learned about the effects.

Sort of like how a chronic alcoholic needs different pain killers.


20 posted on 02/06/2023 8:11:13 AM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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