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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This is why libertarian politics fail. It denies human nature (also look at socialism and communism)


10 posted on 02/05/2023 6:00:14 PM PST by LukeL
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To: LukeL

very good point.


11 posted on 02/05/2023 6:08:03 PM PST by imabadboy99
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To: LukeL

Bump. Human nature doesn’t change from anything we do. Only God can do that.


20 posted on 02/05/2023 6:19:56 PM PST by Track9 (You are far too inquisitive not to be seduced…)
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To: LukeL
This is why libertarian politics fail. It denies human nature (also look at socialism and communism)

Agreed. Government is a necessary evil. Sometimes you need to do things like rounding up Fentanyl dealers and execute them by using the firing squad.

26 posted on 02/05/2023 6:29:47 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: LukeL

“This is why libertarian politics fail. It denies human nature (also look at socialism and communism)”
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I don’t agree with all Libertarian positions myself, but in a Libertarian run society these addicts wouldn’t be given government funds like SSI to blow on drugs. Which means any drug users would have to be self supporting, so people like in this article who let themselves go to that extent wouldn’t be able to afford drugs in the first place.


29 posted on 02/05/2023 6:35:34 PM PST by jimwatx
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Prescription opioid drugs have gone down by over 60% from peak in 2012. So the increased ODs are NOT due to prescription opioids.
The people dying today and over the past 10 years are predominantly the young and they were never started on opioid for acute or chronic pain. So it’s not a case of people getting addicted to prescriptions and going on to fentanyl.

That said you need to understand the iron rule of prohibition. As enforcement gets harder and the supply of illegal drugs becomes scare, the drugs get harder.
During alcohol prohibition, alcohol consumption went from beer and wine to high proof liquor. The obvious reason is that it’s cheaper and safer for drug dealers to ship highly concentrated drugs or alcohol than weaker drugs and alcohol.

Drugs are big business for government. DEA and prisons would have much less work if there was less enforcement.

The other thing is that the drug trade is still primarily conducted in US dollars. This creates demand for dollars and without that demand the dollar would be even weaker.

Then with all this money at stake, you’ve got to consider that politicians and Fed agencies are getting money indirectly from cartels and the money laundering banks

People need to wake up. The government is benefiting from the war on drugs and have been for years.


39 posted on 02/05/2023 7:01:15 PM PST by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by non-compliance; jury and state nullification. )
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To: LukeL

“This is why libertarian politics fail. It denies human nature”

How would more conservative politics help?


83 posted on 02/06/2023 5:15:09 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: LukeL

Pointing at drug deaths and blaming libertarian policies is like pointing at “gun-free zone” school shootings and blaming gun rights. The country’s drug policies are very, very far from libertarian.


86 posted on 02/06/2023 5:56:13 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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