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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The author's argument falls apart from two false premises:

1) Putin favors a long war. Putin wants a quick victory. Regardless of who wins, a long war damages the Russian economy and creates instability in the Russian regime.

2) Putin's goals are limited to keeping Ukraine out of NATO. Putin's goal are more extensive than that. He wants, as a minimum, to turn Ukraine into a vassal state of Russia, and, at a maximum, to annex Ukraine into Russia to fulfill his goal of reuniting all of the Russian people (which he has stated includes the Ukrainians). Putin will never willingly accept a truly neutral and independent Ukraine that outside of Russia's "sphere of privileged influence."

14 posted on 02/04/2023 12:29:22 PM PST by Salohcin
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To: Salohcin

Putin wants the strategic and precious metals that sit under Ukraine.


29 posted on 02/04/2023 1:01:29 PM PST by Fireone (The only reason our elections are complicated is because the cheaters want it that way.)
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To: Salohcin

” Putin’s goal are more extensive than that. He wants, as a minimum, to turn Ukraine into a vassal state of Russia, and, at a maximum, to annex Ukraine into Russia to fulfill his goal of reuniting all of the Russian people (which he has stated includes the Ukrainians). Putin will never willingly accept a truly neutral and independent Ukraine that outside of Russia’s “sphere of privileged influence.”

These are both lies. Putin has never stated any of the above.
He has given countless speeches and been very consistent about what Russia has done in Ukraine.

Newbies to following Russia missed other bombings and wars.
Russia could have grazed Ukraine to the ground in under a week. They did it to the chechens. I was horrified.
Grozny looked like a nuclear bomb had hit it.
What we did to Berlin doesn’t even compare.

Without historical perspective, people, often from other countries, post all their myths and BS here because they just don’t know.

I have, quite frankly, been amazed at how kind Russia has been in this war.
I have followed Putin and Russia very closely since the 90s.
Most of you here are just jumping in with your assumptions after being brainwashed by the media and repeating it.

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30 posted on 02/04/2023 1:02:24 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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