Posted on 01/31/2023 10:35:18 AM PST by Golden Eagle
More than a quarter of Republican voters say they’d back former President Donald Trump in the 2024 election even if he runs as a third-party candidate — possibly threatening to split the GOP electorate as the party seeks to win back the White House.
As the 2024 primary field begins to take shape, a majority of Republican voters are seeking to move past Trump and elevate another candidate as their party’s nominee. However, nearly 30% of “Always Trumpers” may be standing in their way, according to a new poll from the Bulwark.
“A large majority of GOP voters is ready to move on from Donald Trump. But a devoted minority might not let them,” said Sarah Longwell, who conducted the poll. “This is the 'Always Trump' faction of the Republican party. And they are why the GOP could be sleepwalking into another Donald Trump catastrophe.”
In a series of hypothetical matchups between Trump and other potential Republican candidates, polling shows the former president is fading with GOP voters at large. In a crowded primary field between Trump and nine of the party’s top contenders, the former president garnered roughly 28% of the vote — coming in below Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who clinched 39%, according to the poll.
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There are numerous people who “died suddenly” who would disagree.
It doesn’t matter who runs for President, as long as we have ballots that are mailed to any Tom, Dick, or Harry that doesn’t even request a ballot. The Democrats will see to it that their candidate wins. There will always be new ballots “found”, and always enough to carry the Dems over for the win.
The GOPe and the likes of Paul Ryan do not like Trump. That is why I support President Trump.
It’s either gonna be Trump or DeSantis, preferably Trump as I would rather see DeSantis win in ‘28, but if either of them are at the top of the GOP ticket come November of next year, that is who I vote for. Otherwise, 3rd party. I’m done with the GOP.
Trump will be the nominee and we will end up on the rocks again in 2024. It is quite predictable.
FWIW - DeSantis is young and he would be very smart to sit this one out and support MAGA who view him favorably because it won’t matter WHO we nominate if the left can harvest ballots. We cannot win.
Think about it..... Trump INCREASED his vote in 2020 and still lost by thousands in the swing states because they kept finding (harvesting) votes among other shenanigans.
This has not changed. Look at Arizona. It’s a lost cause if we do not fix the election problems and DeSantis will not fare any better than Trump.
The media will make this so nasty that DeSantis will never win because many MAGA voters will never support him and DeSantis is developing a loyal following and many of them will never support Trump.
= President Newsom
Sadly, you are correct.
Trump is going to EASILY get the GOP nomination so why speculate on an impossibility?
America and the World need Trump. At present we are on our way to financial disaster.
Trump is anti mandate. He’s good. Some of you are OBSESSED with the vax. Don’t get it, no onr is forcing you to get it.
Pray for Trump. We need this man so badly.
Stupid vaccine obsession bump.
Non of the Lilliputians in the GOP ( including Desantis ) has a snowball’s chance in hell of beating him in the primary.
A big problem is that there are many Democrats and a number of independents who might not like Biden at all, but will show up to vote AGAINST Trump.
Biden is really loathed on the left. He’s everything that was bad about the Democratic party back in the day and most of the worst of it now.
Getting Roe reinstated is as motivating for the left as getting it overturned was for the right.
There are more registered Democrats, but they usually vote at a lower rate. They don’t need to cheat, they just need to have all of them turn out.
I would only vote for Trump if he both ran and formed a new America First Party in the process. Then I am all in.
In an era when elections are decided by extremely narrow margins, an independent candidate with a following can swing the general election. Notable examples:
George Wallace split the Democrat vote in 1968 and 1972, giving the Republican, Richard Nixon the win. In 1972 Nixon won in a landslide.
Ross Perot, running as an independent, took enough conservative votes from Republicans George H.W. Bush in 1992, and Bob Dole in 1996, to deliver the White House to Democrat Bill Clinton.
In the close election of 2000, Ralph Nader (Green Party) took enough Democrat votes to prevent Al Gore from winning the Florida recount. Bush won Florida in the recount by only 537 votes. Ralph Nader’s total count was 97,488 in Florida. Nader ran on a very liberal platform so it is almost certain had he not been on the ballot, most of the 97,488 Nader votes would have gone to Gore, sending him to the White House.
In 2024, if Trump does not get the GOP nomination, and decides to run as an independent, he will almost certainly ensure a Democrat win by taking significant ballots from the Republican candidate.
I was wondering about the poll. Thanks for clearing up whose interest it served.
Dittos
During COVID every death was COVID related. Now, post pandemic, every death is COVID Vax related.
As long as Dominion is permitted to exist and as long as mail-in ballots and other f*ckery is permitted, elections are BS.
Hospitals are still refusing care to the unvaxxed so don’t tell me no one is forcing the vax.
Because they are.
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