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Are We Even Allowed To Consider Law Enforcement’s Side Of The Tyre Nichols Incident? It might be helpful to get a little more information first
The Federalist ^ | 01/31/2023 | Eddie Scarry

Posted on 01/31/2023 9:19:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind

While Ben Crump wants cable news opinions on incomplete footage of a confrontation with police to be the ‘blueprint’ for firing and convicting cops, it might be helpful to get a little more information first.

If Ben Crump, America’s No. 1 attorney in illiteracy, gets what he wants, kiss the right to due process — or what’s left of it — goodbye. If you’re suspected of committing a crime, particularly if you’re a police officer in the line of duty, pray you don’t see his face. It will be all but a death sentence.

Crump last week said that the Memphis Police Department’s response to the death of 29-year-old black man Tyre Nichols is “the blueprint for going forward” in matters of police confronting black suspects. By that, he apparently means firing, arresting, and prosecuting cops based on whatever half-baked narrative Crump puts out with hopes of getting a multimillion-dollar settlement with the city — all before law enforcement has had a chance to release any materials in its own defense.

Here’s what allegedly happened in the run-in between Nichols and the police: He was stopped by multiple cop cars on Jan. 7 for, police said, reckless driving; he was pulled from his car, but while officers attempted to subdue him, he broke free and fled the scene; after police were able to apprehend Nichols a second time, he allegedly continued to struggle and multiple cops appear to have taken turns beating him. Those details are apparent in the videos released by authorities on Friday.

But while Crump wants cable news opinions on incomplete footage of a confrontation with police to be the “blueprint” for firing and convicting cops, it might be helpful — fair, even — to get a little more information beforehand.

Why did police feel the need to forcibly remove Nichols from his car? Why did he resist the detention? What does the police incident report say? What does the medical examiner’s report of Nichols’ autopsy say? What does the district attorney’s criminal complaint against the five officers say?

We know none of that information because we have none of the supporting documents or testimony. No incident report, no medical examiner’s report, and no criminal complaint against the police.

To be sure, our stupid media, fully invested in Crump’s cause, dutifully reported that an “independent” autopsy found Nichols to have “suffered extensive bleeding caused by a severe beating.” It further confirmed that “his observed injuries are consistent with what the family and attorneys witnessed on the video of his fatal encounter with police…”

OK, first, there is no such thing as an “independent” autopsy. There is only an official autopsy conducted by the state’s medical examiner. Anything else done to the body outside of that is privately funded by a third party — in this case, apparently Crump and the Nichols family. In other words, they paid for what they got before any official autopsy report was released to the public.

Second, those findings, such as they are, have so far only been relayed by Crump himself, who has not made the private report available to any media that have requested it. Thusly, CNN reported on Jan. 25: “CNN has asked Crump for a copy of the autopsy commissioned by the family, but he said the full report is not yet ready.”

And if we’re just basing our decision to convict off the so-far released video footage, plus the ever-so-helpful repeated statements by the police chief about how “inhumane” the contents of it are, then let’s talk about what’s in that footage.

It starts with an officer in his car, driving to the scene where more police appear to have blocked Nichols’ vehicle on multiple sides. The cop exits his own squad car and approaches Nichols’ vehicle, at which point another officer is opening the door and pulling Nichols out. They demand that Nichols get on the ground on his stomach, though he resists and tells them, “Y’all are doing a lot right now,” and “I’m just trying to go home.”

There is further struggling as Nichols gets back up to his feet and an officer tries shooting him with a Taser. Nichols is able to flee on foot. More officers arrive to assist and chase Nichols down. At some point, they find him and are once again able to force him to the ground.

An officer sprays Nichols with an irritant but appears also to spray himself, something he complains about in separate video footage. Nichols repeatedly struggles to get on his feet, even as separate cops are seen swinging fists at his head and body. As you’ve heard, there’s a lot of commotion, and Nichols calls for “Mom,” who apparently lives fairly close to where the incident occurred.

Once he’s finally been thoroughly detained and intensely beaten, the police talk among themselves. A few important remarks are picked up:

“He high as a kite.”
“That motherf-cker high.”
“He high. He high as a motherf-cker.”
“I sprayed. He sprayed … tased.”

And:

“Swung. Bam, almost hit me.”
“He reached for Martin’s gun.”
“He had his hand on my gun. That motherf-cker…”
“He’s stronger than a motherf-cker.”

What were they talking about? What did they see that we didn’t? What did they feel that we couldn’t?

One officer said he initiated the stop because Nichols was driving against traffic and swerving toward his own squad car as police signaled for Nichols to stop. Eventually, the officer said, Nichols paused at a red light and that’s when the police engaged him on foot. Was Nichols under the influence of a deadly drug when he was confronted by police? It wouldn’t be the first time something like that happened.

In any event, nobody believes Nichols deserved to die or to be excessively beaten by overzealous cops. But what happened? We should know everything, and “everything” isn’t limited to incomplete video and whatever Ben Crump has to say.


Eddie Scarry is the D.C. columnist at The Federalist and author of "Liberal Misery: How the Hateful Left Sucks Joy Out of Everything and Everyone."



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; eddieisscary; eddiescarry; killing; memphis; policebrutality; tyrenichols
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1 posted on 01/31/2023 9:19:43 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yup. Get all the facts before rushing to judgment. The video is damning (but so was the Rodney King video). One of the greatest injustices that has resulted from new technology is that sensationalism has become so dominant.


2 posted on 01/31/2023 9:24:50 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: SeekAndFind

No.
It does not matter what those LEOs saw, what they felt, what they were told, what pre-emptied the stop.
They were out of line and also out of their scope of work.

All of them need to be tried for murder.

Nothing else to say until the jury makes a decision.


3 posted on 01/31/2023 9:25:52 AM PST by Dan_Frisbie
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To: SeekAndFind

“kiss the right to due process — or what’s left of it — goodbye.”

Police are entitled to due process.

And so are suspects.


4 posted on 01/31/2023 9:27:09 AM PST by JSM_Liberty
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To: SeekAndFind

That autopsy is important.


5 posted on 01/31/2023 9:27:27 AM PST by Mathews (I have faith Malachi is right!!! Any day now...)
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To: SeekAndFind

What did they use as “probable cause” to make the stop and why didn’t the young man cooperate from the start? Somebody’s trying real hard to make two plus two equal five.


6 posted on 01/31/2023 9:28:16 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Dan_Frisbie

“Nothing else to say until the jury makes a decision.”

Wanna bet?


7 posted on 01/31/2023 9:30:13 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

From the rumors swirling around, Tyre was banging one of the officer’s ex wives and right after the beating he texted her a photo of Tyre all beaten up..yeah i know its just a rumor but it would explain why this looked VERY personal, this had nothing to do with some traffic violation, could have easily just given him a ticket and moved on but they wanted to kick his ass for a reason


8 posted on 01/31/2023 9:30:52 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: equaviator

RE: What did they use as “probable cause” to make the stop and why didn’t the young man cooperate from the start?

Good questions. But very few of the articles from the Mainstream media ever botherered to probe this to find the answers to the questions.


9 posted on 01/31/2023 9:31:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Thought experiment, “alternate history”:

We know that in reality, Mr. Nichols was beaten to death by five assailants. Mr. Nichols had good reason to be in fear of death or grave bodily harm.

For discussion:

Suppose hypothetically that, instead of what really happened, Mr. Nichols had been armed. Suppose further that he had been able use his weapon to kill his assailants.

Would you

1) Damn him to hell as a “cop killer”?
2) Recognize him as an innocent, successful self-defender?
3) Something else?


10 posted on 01/31/2023 9:31:49 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

RE: From the rumors swirling around, Tyre was banging one of the officer’s ex wives and right after the beating he texted her a photo of Tyre all beaten up..

In other words, it was TO TEACH HIM A LESSON? But why isn’t this being reported anywhere?


11 posted on 01/31/2023 9:32:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: ought-six
Yup. Get all the facts before rushing to judgment. The video is damning (but so was the Rodney King video). One of the greatest injustices that has resulted from new technology is that sensationalism has become so dominant.

Excellent point. The rush to judgement, in the narrative they want, is one of the greatest powers of the media.

12 posted on 01/31/2023 9:33:15 AM PST by marktwain
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To: NorthMountain

RE: 3) Something else?

Absent all the evidence thus far, I have to go with #3


13 posted on 01/31/2023 9:33:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: NorthMountain
We know that in reality, Mr. Nichols was beaten to death by five assailants. Mr. Nichols had good reason to be in fear of death or grave bodily harm.

How do we know that if we have not seen the autopsy?

14 posted on 01/31/2023 9:34:29 AM PST by marktwain
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To: SeekAndFind
Indications are that "their side of the story" won't help their case.

The "Scorpion unit" doesn't go after people for reckless driving.

They knew this guy and likely had a beef with him. (per various LEO interviews)

15 posted on 01/31/2023 9:35:18 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: SeekAndFind

because it’s just a rumor ...


16 posted on 01/31/2023 9:36:50 AM PST by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: G Larry

RE: They knew this guy and likely had a beef with him.

After reading most MSM articles, that was also my own conclusion ( for now ). IT WAS PERSONAL !


17 posted on 01/31/2023 9:37:25 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Sarah Barracuda

That this was personal to one cop makes sense, but I would warn you about rumors.

Rumors were that Paul Pelosi invited DuPape to his home for a tryst. DuPape arriving with a backpack full of tools, and surveillance footage of him forcefully breaking in through a glass door puts that rumor to rest.

I don’t know the truth about Nichols at all, and I would suspect, few of us do.


18 posted on 01/31/2023 9:38:39 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TP)
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To: SeekAndFind

When is it justified to beat a suspect to death?

In this case a traffic violation allegedly

We can see what they did on tape

Under what circumstances is that legally permissible

I’m waiting

It’s perfectly normal for folks to form an opinion based on what we all saw


19 posted on 01/31/2023 9:39:02 AM PST by wardaddy (Truth is treason in the Empire of liars)
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To: SeekAndFind

I dont know if its true, its just a “Rumor” but its plausible..especially if the officer(Haley) sent his ex a photo of Tyre right after the beating..and why the rest of the cops jumped in to assist with the beating


20 posted on 01/31/2023 9:39:24 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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