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To: TonyinLA; Vlad0

“Answer that and then maybe you’ll earn a seat at the table.”

Realpolitik says none of that matters, it’s a moral dimension for amateurs.

We, the US is faced with a clearly divergent set of essential interests compared to Ukraine.

Our first existential interest is to avoid war with Russia. No other interest anywhere supersedes that one. Our second interest is that the Ukrainian war stay in Ukraine.

We share NO interest with Ukraine. None. In fact their interests lie in the opposite of the above two principal interests the US has.

Release them to their fate. End all military and intelligence and economic support.


7 posted on 01/30/2023 5:08:17 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

>> We share NO interest with Ukraine

Save the corruption. Otherwise, good points


31 posted on 01/30/2023 8:30:28 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Mariner
“We share NO interest with Ukraine.”

That's correct. But, this is not about the Ukies it is about Russia. They have been and still are the most dangerous and aggressive foe we have had in the last 20th century. Every other major country has learned to live in peace with other countries except Russia. We need to end this threat once and for all and now we have a golden opportunity to do it. Lets us not lose sight of that fact. Just about every other country sees what I have mentioned and is helping in one way or the other. Why do you think Finland and Lithuania are joining Nato? They are doing so because they see Russia as the threat that it is and has been and they do not want to go back to the bad old days of the Soviet Union and neither do I. If they can't beat little Ukraine do you really think they are going to start a nuclear war with all of the rest of us?

45 posted on 01/31/2023 7:33:01 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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