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Avoiding a Long War - U.S. Policy and the Trajectory of the Russia-Ukraine Conflict (Russia is winning, US needs off ramp)
RAND CORP (that's right) ^

Posted on 01/29/2023 8:50:51 AM PST by BusterDog

Discussion of the Russia-Ukraine war in Washington is increasingly dominated by the question of how it might end. To inform this discussion, this Perspective identifies ways in which the war could evolve and how alternative trajectories would affect U.S. interests. The authors argue that, in addition to minimizing the risks of major escalation, U.S. interests would be best served by avoiding a protracted conflict. The costs and risks of a long war in Ukraine are significant and outweigh the possible benefits of such a trajectory for the United States.

(Excerpt) Read more at rand.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commietrolls4putin; notourwar; putinisgay; soviettrollsonfr; zotsoviettrolls
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To: Williams

“And stop screaming and crying about nuclear war like a leftist hippie.”

Your contribution to humanity is none. A growing portion of the world hates the US because of rabid, toothless, animals like you.


21 posted on 01/29/2023 9:15:10 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: AAABEST

Let me tell you something punk the only ones lying here are dopes like you.

I gave you a history lesson you’re a moron.

But you make a great Communist hippie do you wear tie dye and bell bottoms?


22 posted on 01/29/2023 9:15:26 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

I don’t your BS novels - st00pit old fart.

Go choke.


23 posted on 01/29/2023 9:15:30 AM PST by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: escapefromboston; BusterDog; moovova; mountainlion; BobL; AAABEST; tet68; Spok; Williams; ...
Alexander Mercouris on the neocons, Friday:

26:06 But back to the neocons: they're running the show here, and I think it was obvious from the briefing yesterday to the Senate that Victoria Nuland is firmly in charge.

In my opinion, she's firmly in charge of this operation. She's in charge of the Europeans, she's in charge of of the Americans - she's driving this train, this car - absolutely!

I mean that's the one thing (by the way) the neocons are extremely good at - they're extremely good at manipulating people into wars.

They did that over Iraq, they did that over Syria, they did that over Libya.

The one thing the neocons are hopeless at is winning these wars, but they're getting people into these wars, in effect, by engaging in what you might call psychological blackmail to push people into wars.

They do this very well - that's exactly what they do.

They smear - they're very good at smearing their enemies.

You know, talk about Neville Chamberlain and appeasement was conjured up when Schultz was dithering over tanks and of course instead of him coming along out and telling these people to take a running jump and go away, which is what he should do and what a real leader would do, he gets scared.

27:38

https://youtu.be/o6jHVsA3pw8?t=1571

24 posted on 01/29/2023 9:15:42 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: BusterDog; Greetings_Puny_Humans; Williams; ansel12

From the linked ebook (download the pdf for free):

“Since October 2021, when he first briefed President Joe
Biden on Russia’s plans to invade Ukraine, Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley reportedly kept
a list of “U.S. interests and strategic objectives” in the
crisis: “No. 1” was “Don’t have a kinetic conflict between
the U.S. military and NATO with Russia.” The second,
closely related, was “contain war inside the geographical
boundaries of Ukraine.”17

From the summary:

“in addition to minimizing the risks of major escalation, U.S. interests would be best served by avoiding a protracted conflict”

Rand says US and Ukrainian interests are DIVERGENT.

Continually subjecting US interests to Ukrainian interests is traitorous.


25 posted on 01/29/2023 9:16:26 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Chunga85

There we go more Communist leftism. Every leftist I’ve ever known has also wailed about the rest of the world hating the United States because we are so evil. You are pure Communist.

Funny they hate us so much that every country in the Western alliance is contributing to this war effort. You idiot.


26 posted on 01/29/2023 9:16:56 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

27 posted on 01/29/2023 9:17:29 AM PST by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: AAABEST

Listen punk who the h*** are you to throw around agism and try to discriminate against people who you think are your seniors.

Your behavior is the trademark of a leftist. You are a Communist.


28 posted on 01/29/2023 9:18:36 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: JBW1949

The only thing we know for sure is that every dollar and every bullet we send over there gets more Ukrainian and Russia men killed.


29 posted on 01/29/2023 9:19:54 AM PST by budj (Combat vet, second of three generations.)
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To: Williams
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30 posted on 01/29/2023 9:20:04 AM PST by CapandBall
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To: AAABEST

Isn’t it fascinating that the communists here have taken to criticizing those they think are older than them remember when no one over 30 was to be trusted? You communists are all the same down through the ages.


31 posted on 01/29/2023 9:20:30 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

Your deranged, selfish view of the world is being stamped out. You are a worthless fake news foot soldier in this army of “soft power”.

Soft power is on a collision course with Hard Power and there is nothing you can do except froth at the mouth, a feeble old, vicious creature.


32 posted on 01/29/2023 9:23:14 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Williams

I was prepared to give a little attention to the pro-proxy war argument but your whiny lies and titanic fallacies cured me of that. Thanks!


33 posted on 01/29/2023 9:30:51 AM PST by HalfIrish
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To: Williams
“… screaming and crying about nuclear war like a leftist hippie.”

But hey, the leftist hippies aren’t crying for peace or about nuclear war, in a strange twist, it seems to be the solid conservatives who are issuing warnings about the possibility of nukes being used, which is still a very real possibility as long as nukes exist.
34 posted on 01/29/2023 9:31:03 AM PST by The Louiswu (- .-. ..- -- .--. / ..--- ----- ..--- ....-)
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To: Chunga85

Now there is a reasoned argument.

Are you a 12 year old?

As well as a leftist.


35 posted on 01/29/2023 9:31:52 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: The Louiswu

You are not even remotely a solid conservative.


36 posted on 01/29/2023 9:32:28 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: HalfIrish

lol you’re an excellent liar.


37 posted on 01/29/2023 9:33:00 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: moovova

“I read the title, then read the source. Your “(that’s right)” was exactly right because I was a little shocked when I saw the source.”

Your surprise is well deserved, because there is absolutely no way Rand wants a shorter war. This is syops propaganda to hide their real cards.


38 posted on 01/29/2023 9:33:37 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: kiryandil

I love the Duran. Alex and Alexander are awesome. First thing I look for everyday.


39 posted on 01/29/2023 9:34:04 AM PST by BusterDog
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To: Williams
Williams logging on to FR:


40 posted on 01/29/2023 9:34:48 AM PST by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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