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To: tlozo
Me: Zelensky is popular in the sense that he has censored all opposition and criminalized it.

tlozo: There are more than 300 parties in Ukraine, Zelensky banned 11 pro-Russian parties.

Me: so he banned only the political parties that did not agree with his policies. How enlightened.


Me: Seized church property

tlozo: The property STILL belongs to the church, just not the Moscow Patriarch but the Kyiv Patriarch.

Me: So Zelensky stole it and gave it to a different church politically aligned with himself. Such a Robin Hood.


Me: rounding up and shooting anyone that does not support
tlozo: The rounding up of anti-war protesters occurs in Russia.
Me: Did you conveniently forget the Ukrainian death squads that roamed recaptured territory shooting “collaborators” and driving out ethnic Russians?

You are living a lie dude.

117 posted on 01/30/2023 2:44:19 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (Germans are bat-crap crazy for cold showers, high energy bills, and boiled turnips.)
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To: wildcard_redneck; tlozo

“The property STILL belongs to the church, just not the Moscow Patriarch but the Kyiv Patriarch.”

Those are not recognized or considered Orthodox by any other church in the world, all of whom recognize each other.
All are one except for them.

That Kiev group is the equivalent of a corner grocery store claiming to be an Orthodox church.

It is most definitely not the same church.
They are an outcast, they didn’t have succession from the rest of us, and they hold religious ceremonies to honor SS nazis.


121 posted on 01/30/2023 8:07:29 PM PST by MarMema (Orange Putin Bad)
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To: wildcard_redneck
Me: so he banned only the political parties that did not agree with his policies. How enlightened.

Please stop making up stuff. Many of the existing parties opposed Zelensky. For example, Poroshenko's Party(European Solidarity) the candidate who ran against Zelensky in the last election was not banned.

Me: So Zelensky stole it and gave it to a different church politically aligned with himself. Such a Robin Hood.

Show me anywhere the Ukrainian Orthodox Church is "aligned" with Zelensky. The Church is not political or ruled by the government like the Russian Church, whos leader Patriarch Kirill, head of the Russian Orthodox Church, has told his followers that "sacrifice in the course of carrying out your military duty washes away all sins."

Me: Did you conveniently forget the Ukrainian death squads that roamed recaptured territory shooting “collaborators”

I saw collaborators were arrested. Forward me the links showing collaborators were shot.

131 posted on 01/31/2023 6:11:10 AM PST by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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