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West risks war with Russia over escalating military aid
Irish Times ^ | 1/25/23 | Geoffrey Roberts

Posted on 01/26/2023 1:15:13 PM PST by JonPreston

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To: Thunder90

And India/Pakistan too. The old Wargames movie situation is still in effect, nothing’s changed.


161 posted on 01/26/2023 3:57:02 PM PST by Portnoy001
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To: ansel12

“You must not remember how hot it was 1983 to 1986, it was much scarier than this, and the tension in the military/NATO/Europe was real.”

I remember. I was there. I was in USAF EOD. We were told that if the flag dropped with USSR swarming Europe, our only hope to keep it from going nuclear was to keep our jets in the air.

It was our job to keep the runways open by clearing the thousands of area-denial bombs and bomblets that would certainly be there.

During exercises, it was obvious to us that we did not have the people or equipment to do the job and we would all be dead in the first hour the flag dropped.

I remember. But I see doom-day as being 100 times more likely today than then. For one thing our President is a cabbage. That is not a good thing when in a crisis.

I also see Austin and Blinker driving this thing and they are dangerously stupid. Last spring I saw Austin tell a press conference that our goal was to bleed Russia dry through the war. That is maybe OK as a goal but is crazy stupid to admit it in a press conference.

I remember, but I am more afraid than ever.


162 posted on 01/26/2023 3:58:02 PM PST by bosco24
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To: JonPreston

“First, thanks for spelling Kiev correctly...

Kiev, Kyiv...it makes no difference to me how people want to spell it. I say Kiev because all my maps and atlases growing up showed it that way. No other reason.

“...and second, the answer is because Putin is compassionate, at least according to this author.”

Compassionate is not a word I would associate with Putin. But, maybe he’s compassionate to his mistresses.


163 posted on 01/26/2023 4:00:11 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

“”was October, 1973: We went to DEFCON III for a day or so when we matched the Soviets’ move to back Syria in the Yom Kippur War with our move to back Israel. “”

I had just been issued arctic gear and my gear was packed and by the front door, I assumed the 9th Infantry was going to Russia, my stepbrother was with the 82nd at the time and was actually parachuted up and sitting on the tarmac.

Since I was leaving the Army in about 2 months, newly married, and a big student of WWII, I was not looking forward to the Eastern front.

Tense times.


164 posted on 01/26/2023 4:00:46 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: JonPreston

165 posted on 01/26/2023 4:02:17 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: MarMema

BS

you need to tell yourself the truth


166 posted on 01/26/2023 4:02:55 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: Portnoy001; JonPreston

I cannot think of anyone that you Ukronazis make look intelligent, its just too overwhelming!!


Russian actor Yuri Galtsev shares a story of filming a movie in Lvov, where a local granny greeted two actors in German uniforms with “Thank God, ours have come”.

Source: Пул N3

◾Canned food is produced in Western Ukraine. Inscriptions: “Contains pieces of Russian babies” or “Contains pieces of Luhansk citizens” is labeled with the Nazi and Holocaust collaborator flag of the UPN.

◾The initiative came from Oleksandr Gramarchuk, a former associate of Ukraine’s ex-president Petro Poroshenko,
who advertises the products on his Facebook page.

◾Gramarchuk recently (10 weeks ago) took a photo with the Commander in Chief of Ukraine in front of Stepan Bandera’s painting.

https://t.me/heilukraine1959/1150


167 posted on 01/26/2023 4:02:59 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: McGruff

Donald Trump, The Peace and Prosperity party.


168 posted on 01/26/2023 4:03:30 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: Peter ODonnell

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4126310/posts?page=74#74


169 posted on 01/26/2023 4:10:43 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: Peter ODonnell

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4126310/posts?page=74#74


170 posted on 01/26/2023 4:10:44 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: bosco24

It was dangerous in the past because Russia had the means to attack and conquer Europe, they were already on Germany’s border and had over 6 million men ready to go, 7 Airborne Divisions, many bridge-building units, vast tank forces, and a vast Air force.

Today there is no reason for Russia to attack all of NATO and what used to be the Warsaw Pact, they can’t, they can’t even pretend they can, they have no forces to attack with.

The fear in the past was that Russia would attack and that as many millions of soldiers were involved in combat with wins and losses, at some point nuclear weapons would come into play. The prize was Europe and power over the world.

Today, the only fear is that for some odd reason, Russia decides to commit suicide and take the Western world with it, by emptying their silos, there is nothing to gain, no rich countries to win, no prize at the end, just the end of Russia and the Western world.


171 posted on 01/26/2023 4:13:04 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Thunder90

The US and Israel just did a practise exercise to hit Iran...

⚡️🇺🇸🇮🇱🇮🇷 The US and Israel will simulate an attack on an Iranian nuclear site today, N12 News reports

US and Israeli warplanes will drop 100 tons of bunker-busting bombs within minutes in the southern Israel simulation, the report says. (If you live in the area you will hear some very loud explosions)

The drill will test the complex coordination required for the attack. Pilots will also practice a rapid retreat from the strike zone to minimize the risk of being downed by Iranian air defenses.


172 posted on 01/26/2023 4:13:56 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: bosco24

History is seasonal and winter is coming. The very survival of the nation will feel at stake. Sometime before the year 2025, America will pass through a great gate in history, commensurate with the American Revolution, Civil War, and the twin emergencies of the Great Depression in World War II. The risk of catastrophe will be high. The nation could erupt into insurrection or civil violence, crack up geographically or succumb to authoritarian rule. If there is a war, it is likely to be one of maximum risk and effort – in other words, a total war. Every Fourth Turning has registered an upward ratchet in the technology of destruction, and in mankind’s willingness to use it.” (The Fourth Turning, Strauss & Howe, 1997)


173 posted on 01/26/2023 4:15:56 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: ansel12

The west is the player committing suicide.


174 posted on 01/26/2023 4:16:58 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: MarMema

Excellent research, thanks


175 posted on 01/26/2023 4:17:22 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: Portnoy001

Who’s talking about Scott Ritter? You are the one in the side of the overall groomer molester globohomo culture.

Your side is Trudeau, Macron, Boris Johnson, Maria Abramovich the spirit cooker, Hillary, the Vindman brothers, the Biden crime family, Kamala, the entire MSM, the entirety of leftist academia, Facebook, Merkel, Klaus Schwab, the WEF, Obama, Nancy “Slobber Ukraini” Pelosi, the Green Party of Germany, etc.

You name it...every single hard core leftist and globalist is on your side.

That is who you are.


176 posted on 01/26/2023 4:18:00 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Sunsong

Prove your lie. Bidenista.


177 posted on 01/26/2023 4:19:31 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: DesertRhino

While you’re wrong about me, most of them (except Hillary) are probably better than Putin and Russia. Sucks don’t it?


178 posted on 01/26/2023 4:20:05 PM PST by Portnoy001
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To: ansel12

What if Russia says to the west, pull out of Ukraine or else?

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4126310/posts?page=74#74


179 posted on 01/26/2023 4:21:39 PM PST by MarMema (Biden = Americans Last)
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To: BenLurkin; JonPreston

The people of Ukraine are the victims, so far.

However many thousand conscripts have been thrown into the grinder so far aren’t exactly small potatoes.

Zelenskyyyy and Zhou and the people who run them are criminals.


180 posted on 01/26/2023 4:22:22 PM PST by OKSooner (War is a racket. COVID-19 is a racket.)
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