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US Bristles As South African Ally To Host Joint Naval Drills With Russia, China Amidst Ukraine War
Nation and State ^ | 01/23/2023 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 01/24/2023 9:25:12 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The Russian navy is set to participate alongside the Chinese and South African navies in exercises set for February off South Africa, Russia’s state TASS has announced.

Importantly, the Russian frigate named ‘Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov’ is armed with hypersonic cruise missiles, after it entered deployment in the Atlantic Ocean three weeks ago.
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The frigate Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov, via TASS.

The Zircon hyperonics it is carrying are believed to be able to fly at nine times the speed of sound, with a range of over 620 miles. The ship is expected to traverse the Mediterranean, making its way to Russia’s port at Tartus, before heading south.

“‘Admiral Gorshkov’ … will go to the logistic support point in Syria’s Tartus, and then take part in joint naval exercises with the Chinese and South African navies,” TASS reported.

The South African National Defense Force has also confirmed the drills, which will run February 17-26 and be located off the port cities Durban and Richards Bay, describing that the exercise aims “to strengthen the already flourishing relations between South Africa, Russia and China.”

The South African military also pointed out it will be the second joint drills involving the three countries, after a 2019 exercise.

Interestingly, the timing of the new drills will correspond with the one year anniversary of Russia’s Feb.24 invasion of Ukraine. Given that it remains a US ally, South Africa is coming under heavy criticism for hosting the drills, and for also allowing Russian warships at its ports.

South Africa had been among the some three dozen countries to abstain from a UN vote last year to condemn Russia’s annexation over the four eastern Ukrainian territories.

The New York Times reported of the US reaction as follows:

The United States, which has fostered a decades-long strategic partnership with South Africa, immediately expressed disapproval. David Feldmann, a spokesman for the United States Embassy in Pretoria, South Africa, said in a statement, “We note with concern” the plan by South Africa to move ahead with the joint exercises “even as Moscow continues its brutal and unlawful invasion of Ukraine.”

“We encourage South Africa to cooperate militarily with fellow democracies that share our mutual commitment to human rights and the rule of law.” Feldmann said further.

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The NY Times further notes on the significance of South Africa’s defiant and independent stance: “The naval drill is a show of diplomatic independence for South Africa, analysts said.” And further, “South Africa is part of an alliance with Brazil, Russia, India and China — known by the acronym BRICS — and this naval exercise reasserts South Africa’s position that it will not allow the conflict between Russia and Ukraine to dictate its diplomatic relations.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: brazil; brics; ccp; china; india; navaldrills; russia; sco; southafrica
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To: ansel12

I baked different the worst anti Americanism comes from American government and media


61 posted on 01/24/2023 3:49:25 PM PST by rottweiller_inc (inter canem et lupum)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

Thank God people have been turned against America and have embraced Russia and Red China?

I see.


62 posted on 01/24/2023 4:25:39 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Nextrush

I merely pointed out that “You seem pleased with this, you like this alliance?”

It sure set off a lot of elaborate evasions and non-answers, rather than just a straight answer.


63 posted on 01/24/2023 4:30:05 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Thank God people have been turned against America and have embraced Russia and Red China?
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Silly girl!


64 posted on 01/24/2023 6:15:34 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Democrat politicians and voters are dangerous psychopaths. They confirm it everyday.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

Can you translate?


65 posted on 01/24/2023 6:22:54 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

This isn’t a game, we still have to protect and defend America and survive.

History isn’t over and Red China and Russia are not suddenly going to cease trying to crush America and the nations that oppose them so that they can divide up the world.
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So did you post this expecting/hoping that I would in some way disagree with you?


66 posted on 01/24/2023 6:23:01 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Democrat politicians and voters are dangerous psychopaths. They confirm it everyday.)
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To: dfwgator

Both.
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No question about it!


67 posted on 01/24/2023 6:25:22 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Democrat politicians and voters are dangerous psychopaths. They confirm it everyday.)
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To: dfwgator

You mean Trump’s lies regarding the Iraq War, don’t you?


68 posted on 01/24/2023 7:07:19 PM PST by Geo81 (Conservatism, not populism)
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To: ansel12

Can you translate?
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Translate two English words???? Are you drinking again?


69 posted on 01/24/2023 7:11:16 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Democrat politicians and voters are dangerous psychopaths. They confirm it everyday.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

I see, you are one of those childish troll types, got it.


70 posted on 01/24/2023 7:14:06 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: DesertRhino

It is a threat to us because the Gorshkov changed course on its way to South Africa around the island of Flores and turned due west towards the US. Probably just saber-rattling, but still a concern.


71 posted on 01/24/2023 7:31:01 PM PST by lkco
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To: ansel12

I see, you are one of those childish troll types, got it.
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Ansel12 is 12 your age or your IQ or both? Whichever, you need to put down that bottle or crack pipe and hit the sack. You’ll think more rationally after a good night’s sleep.

Nighty night!


72 posted on 01/24/2023 7:36:22 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Democrat politicians and voters are dangerous psychopaths. They confirm it everyday.)
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To: BenLurkin
The South African National Defense Force has also confirmed the drills, which will run February 17-26 and be located off the port cities Durban and Richards Bay, describing that the exercise aims “to strengthen the already flourishing relations between South Africa, Russia and China.”

China and Russia don't choose their governments and military leaders based on sexual kink, pigmentation, ideology or who their grandfather was...

73 posted on 01/24/2023 7:57:33 PM PST by GOPJ ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ Gumballs: Immigrants by the numbers.)
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To: lkco

So, if a Russian ship, 3400 miles away, on the other side of the ocean, turns west towards us, that’s a threat we should worry about?

Interesting. Because US and British warships and spy planes swarmed around Crimea the year before the war. Hell, a Brit ship went to battle stations and sailed 3 miles off of Sevastopol. We swarm them on the Pacific side right up to the 12 mile limit. Our spy planes fly right on that 12 mile limit daily.

And they turn towards us from 3400 miles away. And that is menacing and we should see that as a threat?

Interesting disconnect there.


74 posted on 01/24/2023 10:47:58 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: ought-six

Actually, it began in earnest in 2009 with Obama. (Yeah, Biden was VP, but he was just a potted plant in the Obama administration: Intentionally knee-capping the United States was all Obama.)
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Agree with that! Biden is just continuing Obama’s plan.


75 posted on 01/24/2023 11:53:47 PM PST by octex
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To: SeekAndFind

Spawn of Nelson Mandela and “Bishop” Tutu attacking us. White South Africans should be granted asylum here from that racist commie hellhole.


76 posted on 01/25/2023 12:05:00 AM PST by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATISTS)
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To: SeekAndFind

So much for ending apartheid. South Africa is more poor and wretched than ever. So much for liberal saint Nelson Mandela. He wasted 25 years in prison for a bs cause. The symppy English idiots ruined this nation, while the Boers/Dutch knew what the score was with the unruly black masses


77 posted on 01/25/2023 12:11:40 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: ZULU

“Spawn of Nelson Mandela and “Bishop” Tutu attacking us. White South Africans should be granted asylum here from that racist commie hellhole.”

Agree on this! Backs will be marauders when the law is weak. We see this here.


78 posted on 01/25/2023 12:14:30 AM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: ansel12

Wait for Mexico to join in. Brazil and Argentina are already there. Monroe’s doctrine had two parts to it.


79 posted on 01/25/2023 12:30:28 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

So a Russian army major is here and proudly posting about his country’s plots against America and turning Mexico into a base against us.

FR really has changed, nutty enemy Russian agents are openly spewing their nutty fantasies here.


80 posted on 01/25/2023 6:28:05 AM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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