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Enthusiasm Fading for Electric Vehicles
New American ^ | 1/24/2023 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 01/24/2023 6:20:31 AM PST by Bon of Babble

The recent announcement that electric vehicle (EV) manufacturer Tesla has cut its prices by between six and 20 percent just to maintain its production goals and market share is the latest manifestation of the fading enthusiasm for electric vehicles.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenewamerican.com ...


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There are other issues as well....the so-called “cost advantage” of owning one over the traditional internal-combustion vehicle has narrowed to almost zero. An analysis by The Wall Street Journal in December showed that drivers of Tesla’s Model 3 had to pay the same to drive 100 miles as did the owner of a Honda Civic.
1 posted on 01/24/2023 6:20:31 AM PST by Bon of Babble
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To: Bon of Babble

Not shocked.


2 posted on 01/24/2023 6:23:00 AM PST by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star )
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To: Bon of Babble
Buy one in California at your own risk!

The electrical grid is already overloaded and..

...during a heat wave last September, just days after Governor Gavin Newsom announced that his state was going 100 percent “green” by 2035, the California Independent System Operator (which runs the state’s power grid) asked residents owning EVs to avoiding charging them during peak usage hours...a complete transition to electric vehicles in the state would require at least 15 times more charging stations than the 80,000 that presently exist.

I was getting alerts every few hours not to charge EVs during the 12-day heat wave. I know of no plan to upgrade, improve or expand California's crumbling electrical grid.

3 posted on 01/24/2023 6:24:38 AM PST by Bon of Babble (Rigged Elections have Consequences)
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To: Bon of Babble

Electric Vehicles are a Dead-End


4 posted on 01/24/2023 6:25:16 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: Bon of Babble

I think evs will be useful as a runabout for errands in town. Would be good as my 4th vehicle.
I plan to buy one when they’re going for pennies on the dollar.


5 posted on 01/24/2023 6:27:19 AM PST by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: Qwapisking
Not shocked.

Not shocked. In an article about EV's. What you did there I see.

6 posted on 01/24/2023 6:28:18 AM PST by Bernard (“the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God." JFK 1-20-61)
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To: Bon of Babble

One of the car shows put the three hosts in different electric cars and gave them a list of places to go. In the first five minutes of the drive all three said the same thing; “Do I have enough range?” Big time deal breaker for me.


7 posted on 01/24/2023 6:29:51 AM PST by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: Bon of Babble
Oh no! We're becoming “EV hesitant!” Time for mandates.
8 posted on 01/24/2023 6:30:33 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Bon of Babble

Won’t Harley Davidson be surprised.


9 posted on 01/24/2023 6:30:41 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Bon of Babble

There are only so many buyers willing to but a car that is a partial solution for their transportation needs. The affluent who will accept a second commuter vehicle that can only be a commuter vehicle.

The early adopters who want the cool factor bragging.

Most others, will not accept a partial solution to a general need.

Purely electric vehicles are just not anywhere near a point to be a decent general solution. They are a niche product, and there are certainly use cased that they fit very well. If I had a fleet vehicle need with only local daily travel, electric vehicles would be worth consideration. If I already had a general vehicle and wanted a commuter vehicle, would be acceptable option. If I truly only needed a vehicle with limited range it would be acceptable.

Cost however is also an issue. Let’s be real if I just need a commuter vehicle, I can spend 16k for a brand new Nissan Versa, vs 28k for a Nissan Leaf.

The only real viable solution if you want a GENERAL vehicle and reducing CO2 is a priority for you, the hybrid is the viable alternative... purely electric is not.


10 posted on 01/24/2023 6:30:44 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Bon of Babble

EVs were a ‘fad’ back in 1895-1915, replaced by steam and ICE engines, and they’re a fad now.

Within ~7yrs, there’ll be millions of unsold EVs, sitting in fields, and the world’s mfgrs’ production plants will be empty, after spending TRILLIONS on this idiotic EV crap.

Ditto with windmills, charging stations, battery production mfgrs’ plants, and solar panels. All kaput.


11 posted on 01/24/2023 6:31:42 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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Few understand Electric is fine, it’s the batteries that suck.

Over 25% of the weight of an EV is the battery, and weight is the most important factor.


12 posted on 01/24/2023 6:32:05 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: Bon of Babble

Yeah, my interest never got out of the red zone.


13 posted on 01/24/2023 6:32:07 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: Bon of Babble

Remember Wind Coolers?

They were the biggest thing ever! Every company wanted their own wine cooler. They were going to dominate the beverage market.

They were HUGE. Until they weren’t.


14 posted on 01/24/2023 6:32:14 AM PST by MMusson
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To: Bon of Babble

I could have had a V8.


15 posted on 01/24/2023 6:34:08 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Bon of Babble

Anyone who has has thought this thru should know we’re not ready for electric cars (EC) yet. I read where you have to process 90 tons of ore to get enough for 1 battery. Think of just the diesel oil cost of moving that much dirt. Factor in a frail grid that can barely handle today’s loads without many ECs and the lack of charging stations and the EC is just not ready for prime time.


16 posted on 01/24/2023 6:34:29 AM PST by econjack
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To: moovova

Harley is talking 2 decade time frame for dropping ICE.

And Motorcylces are a very different use case.

Majority of cyclists, limited range and recharge times aren’t really a problem... overwhelming majority of motorcycles are toys for their owners. They commute to and from work on nice days, and putter around on weekends... A huge portion of motorcycles have never traveled more than 150-250 miles in a single use. Just go look at the facebook marketplace/ craiglslist, etc... there are no shortage of late model bikes that have low miles on them.

There are the folks who are more hard core, and do ride all the time, take cross country trips etc... but they are by far the minority of motorcycle owners.

An electric cycle has a far larger footprint meeting the average use case for their vehicle than the electric car or truck does.

And in 20 decades, who knows they might actually have the charging times and performance worked out.


17 posted on 01/24/2023 6:35:44 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Bon of Babble

There is NO plan. It won’t be long that, instead of nicely asking you to not charge, they’ll just shut off your smart meter. Liberalism, as Michael Savage always said, is a mental disease


18 posted on 01/24/2023 6:36:31 AM PST by j.havenfarm (22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: MMusson
I think those "wind coolers" got replaced by systems using evil Freon...


19 posted on 01/24/2023 6:36:56 AM PST by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: moovova

What Harley owner doesn’t love the sound of their engine as they rev it up and start down the highway?

This is a clear case of a company not understanding their customers . . . inexcusable in the business world.


20 posted on 01/24/2023 6:37:06 AM PST by RatRipper
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