[jimwatx]

‘Whenever the West and Ukraine appear to be winning’
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Stopped right there, Ukraine never appeared to be winning. Putting up a tough resistance to Russia at the beginning when they were well supplied, equipped and trained by the US/NATO is one thing, but at no point could it be said they were winning. They never had any hope of winning, they were just used as patsies for US geo-political interests.

[pierrem15]

Stopping and throwing back to about 50% of the initial territorial gains of what was supposedly the world's second strongest military is certainly a victory of sorts.

It would as though the US invaded Mexico, got stopped just short of Mexico City and was driven back to the northern Mexican states.

[ought-six]

“They never had any hope of winning...”

You are wrong: They can win by not losing.