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German intelligence alarmed by Ukrainian losses in Bakhmut - Spiegel
Devidiscourse ^ | 1/20/2023 | Staff

Posted on 01/20/2023 7:47:56 AM PST by mac_truck

The Ukrainian army is losing a three-digit number of soldiers every day, the BND intelligence service told a group of Bundestag lawmakers who focus on security at a secret meeting this week, Spiegel said, citing information it had received.

The BND warned that the capture of Bakhmut by Russian forces would have significant consequences, as it would allow Russia to make further advances.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bakhmut; bnd; germany; ukraine
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To: DaiHuy

In 1995 Vietnam released the number of 1.1 million of their military killed.


41 posted on 01/20/2023 2:33:25 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

That is the figure for North Vietnamese military losses.


42 posted on 01/20/2023 3:07:17 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Mariner

You are not a “thinking person” and have no clue about Poland.


43 posted on 01/20/2023 3:12:26 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Mariner

Germany is a nation of weaklings and traitors not unlike you and your ilk. They unleashed the refugee wave on Europe for “moral reasons,” shut off nuke power and destroyed their military for “moral reasons,” but all of a sudden morals don’t matter when it comes to making Europe dependent on Russian gas.

The common denominator is that everything Germany has done has aided Russia, and has even had Russia’s support. Note Russia calling Poland racists when Poland refused to open the border to Iraqis the Russians flew in to Belarus.


44 posted on 01/20/2023 3:18:12 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; All

You call me a traitor?

You who has never worn the uniform of the US. Who routinely has his shoes pissed on at the urinal by real men.

I have a personally signed letter from Ronald Reagan thanking me for my service. I participated in 3 Polo Hat exercises with TACAMO, one of the most critical jobs in the US military. I relayed, directly, EAMs to SSBNs at sea.

And I am honorably discharged.

Yet, you, a frothing pussy, calls me a traitor.

Hey everybody, come over here and look at this punk!


45 posted on 01/20/2023 4:49:46 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Multiple high level German politicians also have extremely close ties to Moscow.

Collusion!

46 posted on 01/20/2023 4:52:51 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Mariner

He was probably thinking about whether your loyalty is still with America and our NATO alliance or if you had switched to supporting Russian interests against ours and our NATO alliance.


47 posted on 01/20/2023 5:35:04 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

Definitely NOT with NATO.

I believe NATO is contrary to US interests.

And I believe a large political faction in the US is pursuing a war where we have no real interests. I believe them to be the traitors to the American people.


48 posted on 01/20/2023 5:43:44 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Germany loses their country and economy via suicide in moral support with Ukraine being destroyed. Germany should spill the truth about American democrats graft theft and global destruction.


49 posted on 01/20/2023 5:48:27 PM PST by wgmalabama (Censored!)
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To: Mariner

We are a partner in our strongest alliance, we are all in this together in our support of Ukraine, our GIs are in place and at risk, protecting us from Russia.

You support Russia now, the other side, the threat, our enemy.


50 posted on 01/20/2023 5:55:46 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Mariner

https://twitter.com/ThugnastyMMA/status/1501019092777672710?s=20&t=2ftRwafAXUTVlYiUvIkkQQ


51 posted on 01/20/2023 6:08:39 PM PST by Lonely Are The Brave (A man's got to know his limitations. Dirty Harry Callahan)
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To: ansel12

“We are a partner in our strongest alliance, we are all in this together in our support of Ukraine, our GIs are in place and at risk, protecting us from Russia.”

You sound like a fourth grader after his first civics class.

Ukraine is not an ally, never was an ally. We have zero interests there. NONE. Zip.

Our GI’s are not protecting us from Russia. If we stayed out of their backyard and historical sphere of influence we would have normal relations.

And this BS Domino Theory as it applies to Russia is for the very, very stupid. Russia does not have the national power to threaten the countries in Europe where we have real interests.

And just like all ignorant 12 year old girls emoting, you assert anyone who does not materially and militarily support Ukraine...supports Russia’s defeat of the west.

How profoundly stupid.


52 posted on 01/20/2023 6:48:11 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Our NATO allies, we are united in our alliance, and of course we have an interest in Russia, it is why NATO exists.

Of course our fellow Americans are there to protect us from Russia, it is why we are in NATO.

You sound bitter and childish, very angry on this thread, your switching to the other side may be wearing on you.


53 posted on 01/20/2023 6:55:13 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

The assumptions you make prove to all looking you’re just plain stupid.

NATO is a parasite on the American people.

You’d see that if you ever, just once, put America First.

But your loyalties lie elsewhere.


54 posted on 01/20/2023 7:00:04 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

You are the person who supports our enemy in this invasion, quit pretending that you are supporting us.

Write letters to our troops over there if you think you can turn them, tell them they are supporting the wrong country.


55 posted on 01/20/2023 7:05:45 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

“You are the person who supports our enemy in this invasion, quit pretending that you are supporting us.”

You’re so stupid you do not realize an extension of your logic would require you to call anyone who invades Rawanda “our enemy”.

Supporting “us”? WTF is “us”? The US is NOT a combatant.

Oh, you must be referring to UKRAINE!

That’s where YOUR loyalties lie. You are loyal to Ukraine.

May you rot in hell. And all your kind.


56 posted on 01/20/2023 7:13:16 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

You don’t seem to know that America and its NATO allies have decided that our alliance give Ukraine massive aid to fight off this invasion, the biggest European war since WWII, don’t confuse all this with Rwanda.

America, get it? You support Russia, I support America and our efforts. As many thousands of American GIs are working to deliver ordnance and intelligence and training to the Ukrainians, you are supporting the Russian military in its fight to defeat our side and kill those who we train and equip.

Your support for the Kremlin is disturbing.


57 posted on 01/20/2023 7:32:01 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Mariner
I have a personally signed letter from Ronald Reagan

Now you need a signed letter from KGB Putin to match your current ideology.

58 posted on 01/20/2023 10:55:43 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: FarCenter

“Do you have a lame horse you want to trade, Johnny Reb.”
“What do you want with a lame horse, Billy Yank?” comes the reply.
“As a good trade for General Burnside,” the Union soldier says
From the film Gods and Generals
Lincoln chose some poor commanders until he found Grant.
59 posted on 01/20/2023 11:15:02 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Mariner
The assumptions you make prove to all looking you’re just plain stupid. NATO is a parasite on the American people. You’d see that if you ever, just once, put America First. But your loyalties lie elsewhere.

Nice rant...👍👍👍

60 posted on 01/21/2023 5:23:43 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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