Posted on 01/17/2023 6:55:53 PM PST by SeekAndFind
That's the problem right there.
In their heart no one thinks we will really let it reach the point where we don't pay our obligations.
If no one thinks the kidnappers will kill the hostages no one will really negotiate.
THis will be McCarthy’s first test.
Will he RINO or will he stand?
Seeking to get a massive deal is a surefire way to fail yet again.
Modest debt increase for a modest spending cut #1
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Modest debt increase for a modest spending cut #375
Modest debt increase for a modest reform #1
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Modest debt increase for a modest reform #125
Five hundred different bills. Each one put up for a vote.
Ten to twenty votes a day, day in and day out.
Make recalcitrant Democrats look foolish for refusing to make even modest reforms or spending cuts.
freeze all new spending and government hiring (military exempted). Retrieve all unspent covid money and unspent appropriations from past year(s).
Republicans should offer up a clean bill to “fund the government”, only, and raise the debt ceiling by that amount only while a budget is negotiated. Who then would be shutting down the government if rejected?
pass it in exchange for repeal of 1965 immigration act
Empty all the jails of Spanish speakers including those that are Americans. Deport them to their own countries. Give the Americans $500 a month to serve out their terms as free men in one of those countries.. Break a local law? Give the money to the local government and let them eat fish heads.
Floor votes, 10 to 20 a day, every day, maybe over 2000 separate votes by June.
Make them 500 offers, two billion, four billion, etc. increases for reforms and modest spending cuts.
Haggling with donkeys will get you kicked repeatedly.
Get them into the habit of voting to go along with Republican offers, a little bit at a time.
Trying to make a deal with Schumer is not practical. He is simply too talented at holding out. But there are other Democrats that will vote yes if they are asked to.
Reforms that don’t impact their core voters financially will more likely get accepted.
“Republicans should offer up a clean bill”
We need to get something for every billion, or two, or four added.
Fill the bill hoppers with small possible trades.
If you ask for nothing, you will get it.
Hit the debt ceiling. The problem is clearly a spending issue, and if we can’t take on new debt we can’t spend. The reality is that it is first and foremost a cash management issue, and secondly just out of control spending. All the talk paranoia about the debt ceiling is like Y2K. Let’s hit it and really find out how far down the hole it goes.
The EPA is a good place to do some trimming. A 10 billion dollar debt limit increase to remove some bad regulations might fly.
The Department of Education is another place for some trimming.
Debt holders will rush to redeem their debt when it comes due and will sue for interest payments.
All hell will break lose as every tax dollar coming into the Treasury eventually gets seized for debt payment -
No military paychecks, no housing voucher payouts, no veterans benefits, VA doctors walk, Social Security payments months behind....
Make the Democrats the responsible parties by offering them hundreds of ways to avoid the mess. They will take one, then another, and another....
Schumer will hold firm, but most federal elected Democrats don’t live in a state so firmly in ‘rat hands as New York. They will not want to explain why they refused literally hundreds of reasonable Republican offers that would not only have avoided problems, but put the nation on a better footing.
McCarthy will stand like soggy toilet paper.
“while a budget is negotiated”
Schumer is as solid as the Rock of Gibraltar.
He needs to be bypassed. His followers need to be asked hundreds of times to vote responsibly.
If they didn’t vote for Modest Debt Limit Increase & Modest Reform Bill #276, they will get another chance to vote yes about 30 days later.
“while a budget is negotiated”
Schumer is as solid as the Rock of Gibraltar.
He needs to be bypassed. His followers need to be asked hundreds of times to vote responsibly.
If they didn’t vote for Modest Debt Limit Increase & Modest Reform Bill #276, they will get another chance to vote yes about 30 days later.
We need toss 500 modest ways to move forward at the Democrats.
Every big deal will collapse of its own excessive scope.
Think small bills that won’t be strongly resisted by most Democrats.
Keep having votes.
Great point
Lets make this simple. 6 months extension on debt ceiling and dems pass the IRS defunding bill. Everyone hates the IRS and they passed the bill. At least it shows they were passing the bill just for show. Which everyone knows they were. Just baby steps republicans, can we at least start there?
Pass our irs defunding and we raise the debt limit a tiny bit.
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