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To: rmlew

Your ignorance of the subject is astounding.

The Budapest Memorandum was an agreement signed by Bill Clinton, carrying the full force of his personal assurances. It was never even submitted to the US Senate and it was nearly universally derided there.

While Russia is likely to continue to march to Moldova, the Baltics are something they will not take on. They have a hard enough time with Ukraine.

Your allusions to the Domino Theory are delusions.

Unlike yourself, China does not make national decisions based on emotions. They KNOW they do not have the capability to occupy Taiwan, so they will not try.

If they had the ability, Ukraine would not deter them.

All three of your arguments do not stand the test of logic.


33 posted on 01/17/2023 9:19:36 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
Just because you disagree with the strategic reasons to support Ukraine, your claim that they don't exist is an objective lie.

The Budapest Memorandum was an agreement signed by Bill Clinton, carrying the full force of his personal assurances. It was never even submitted to the US Senate and it was nearly universally derided there.
And it doesn't change the fact that our promise meant and means something.

While Russia is likely to continue to march to Moldova, the Baltics are something they will not take on. They have a hard enough time with Ukraine.
Putin and the rest of his gang didn't think Ukraine would be a problem. They assumed that Russian-speaking Ukrainians would support the invasion and that the Ukrainian military would collapse in 2022 as they did in areas in 2022. They assumed they could take Kiev in a few days. And a lot of analysts agreed in February. Russia has conducted cyberwarfare against Estonia. They have used the same irridentist language and tried to rile up ethnic Russians in Estonia.
If NATO didn't support Ukraine, NATO would have collapsed.

Unlike yourself, China does not make national decisions based on emotions. They KNOW they do not have the capability to occupy Taiwan, so they will not try.
2035, when they have 5-6 carrier groups and 6-10 landing helicopter docs is different than today. But even now China could take Taiwan, provided the US did not intervene. And even if we did, we would suffer heavy casualties to win, if we do win. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/06/01/but-can-the-united-states-defend-taiwan/

To defeat China, we would need the support of Japan, Australia, the Philippines, and Singapore. Pressure from India would be very helpful. All of these countries have good reasons to defect to China or go neutral. We have an alliance and unofficial alliances, because countries trust us.

34 posted on 01/18/2023 9:36:06 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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