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To: RomanSoldier19
--- "Germany to send armored carriers, Patriot battery to Ukraine"

Consider that NATO nations have been delivering massive amounts of weapons and munitions for months now, and this "news" is somehow supposed to be new "news?"

Germany, when we were there and Ursula von der Leyen was the bumbling Defense Minister who oversaw NATO training with wooden guns because there were not enough weapons to go around, was plainly not well equipped, remains toothless and more so with this.

8 posted on 01/05/2023 12:58:08 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

It is news. These are new types of equipment being sent. Ukraine has not received non-Soviet design IFV’s before.

Add this to the US release of Bradley IFV’s and the French of heavy armored cars.

Between these all this should significantly beef up Ukrainian ant-armor capability as all these types have built in ATGM’s, or a 105mm gun on the French vehicles.

And this makes two Patriot batteries, with the US already sending one. That’s a big help to area air defense and a supplement to the existing Ukrainian S300 systems, which are apparently running low on ammo. Its a considerable help vs the Russian “strategic bombing” campaign.


11 posted on 01/05/2023 1:21:08 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Between Germany, the US and France this week, this could (given the number of surplus vehicles the three countries have) total 400-500 anti-armor vehicles, which should put a serious damper on any Russian ideas of an offensive. Russia cannot achieve a breakthrough/breakout into a state of operational maneuver without tanks.


12 posted on 01/05/2023 1:26:31 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

[Germany, when we were there and Ursula von der Leyen was the bumbling Defense Minister who oversaw NATO training with wooden guns]

Stick, stick!

(and here I thought that was just a joke)


16 posted on 01/05/2023 9:49:01 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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