Posted on 01/04/2023 10:54:41 PM PST by blueplum
We will defend, support, arm and flood Ukraine with billions of dollars until the last Ukrainian is dead.
How has Russia been bashful about strikes deep into Ukraine? Even the power grid in Lviv in the far west has been hit several times.
And what will he hit with his hypersonic missiles? London? New York?
Then what?
It is an empty threat.
No Russians were being killed in Ukraine prior to 2014, when Russia led an unprovoked attack on Ukraine and Russian supported gangsters seized territories in the east.
No money needs to be laundered through Ukraine: they just passed a pork-stuffed $1.7 trillion spending bill to pay themselves and their political backers directly without any middleman.
Christian:?
“Russian troops raise the Hammer and Sickle flags above conquered Ukrainian towns”
I agree.
Does it also make you uncomfortable to be so ignorant you don’t even know that Germany started WW2 in 1939, not 1931? Actually I know from personal information that average sane people in Germany in 1932 were saying that Hitler guy had some interesting things to say. Of course by 1939 they no longer had such an opinion.
Concern about Russia obtaining our advanced weapons is a concern. However, do they actually have the manufacturing capability to make a modern Bradley. Do these need high quality computer chips, or Swedish quality ball bearings?
who needs manufacturing when China is your best buddy?
Yeah we’re just like nazi Germany and you’re the normal sane one.
Not
Some of you really drank the kool aid on a whole host of propaganda phrases.
Nazis, WEF, globohomos, biolabs, Soros, Klaus Schwab, globalists.
Not a one of them is why Russia is in Ukraine.
“I am uncomfortable with the USA being at war with Russia, using the Ukraine nazi mercenary force to do puppetbidens dirty work...”
Are you okay with Russia using Putin’s nazi mercenary force?
I was not aware that Russia had a Nazi mindset, I thought they were communist
Or perhaps you thought I was jut throwing the "Nazi" label out there.
and to be intellectually honest I do think Russia had a RELATIVELY legitimate reason to invade Ukraine.
Imagine if you can, if for example the government of Mexico was taken over in a KGB coup ( instead of a CIA coup like Ukraine), then propped up the Jerry Sienfeld version Fidel Castro as president of Mexico, and owed the US 30 billion dollars and litterally said "good luck collecting" then cut off water to Texas and started sending troops into California who were wandering around acting like gangster bullies taking whatever they want and even raping women .
That was why Russia "invaded" Ukraine.
But I agree, all the Russians must die because our politicians said so. Putin must die !!!! [/sarc]
nothing has changed the wars will continue until someone finally defeats the USA or Russia or China and tramples them into dust , like it always has been for civilizations like Rome or great Britain, or France with Napoleon or the Mongolian Hordes, or the Vikings, eventually the bullies fall after filling fields with the rotting corpses of our bravest kids who grew up to love their countries , "Right or Wrong"
“I was not aware that Russia had a Nazi mindset, I thought they were communist.”
The Russians’ Wagner Group has confirmed Nazi and extremist right-wing elements; in fact, its founder, Dmitry Utkin, was a known admirer of the Nazi Third Reich. The Wagner Group has been Putin’s “go-to” force in several foreign adventures.
“Imagine if you can, if for example the government of Mexico was taken over in a KGB coup ( instead of a CIA coup like Ukraine), then propped up the Jerry Sienfeld version Fidel Castro as president of Mexico, and owed the US 30 billion dollars and litterally said ‘good luck collecting’ then cut off water to Texas and started sending troops into California who were wandering around acting like gangster bullies taking whatever they want and even raping women .
That was why Russia ‘invaded’ Ukraine.”
You guys ALWAYS trot out this fictional scenario. And it ALWAYS fails.
Here is your analogy: Mexico = Ukraine; US = Russia; Texas = Crimea; Jerry/Fidel = Zelensky; California = part of Russia.
Your analogy is that Mexico (Ukraine) cut off water to Texas (Crimea). This water that Mexico (Ukraine) cut off necessarily originated from a river in Mexico (Ukraine), and a canal had been constructed in Mexico (Ukraine) to supply water to Texas (Crimea). That canal was constructed to deliver water from one part of Mexico (Ukraine) to another part of Mexico (Ukraine), that being Texas (Crimea).
However, your analogy must conclude that the United States (Russia) invaded Mexico (Ukraine) at Texas (Crimea) — because that would be a factual comparison – and annexed the latter (illegally, if the analogy is to continue).
So, who started all this? Who invaded whom? Who occupied whom? The United States (Russia) invaded Mexico (Ukraine) and occupied Mexican (Ukrainian) territory at Texas (Crimea). Mexico (Ukraine) responded accordingly by shutting down the flow of water from Mexico (Ukraine) to occupied Texas (Crimea).
Next, per your scenario, Mexico (Ukraine) then sent troops into California (part of Russia) to rape and pillage. There is no possible analogy here, as Ukraine sent no troops into Russia to carry out rapine and terror.
Then, a few years later the United States (Russia) doubled down and made matters worse by a general invasion of Mexico (Ukraine).
Even your own analogy shows Russia as the aggressor!
But backing Ukraine is idiotic
I hope you arent one of those guys with a Ukraine flag out front
“But backing Ukraine is idiotic.”
Why? Make your case.
trying to reason with war mongers is a fools errand
“if you have to ask why then it is a lost cause.”
No, it’s not. Rather, it is asking you to explain your claim. You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you. That is the American way.
Or, you’re just a blowhard; which I think is the case. Blowhards make claims but NEVER justify or support them. Just as you have done.
believe what you want, that is also "the American Way" like trying to convince someone that Jan6th ( for example)was totally staged theater, if you believe otherwise, no amount of evidence will ever change your mind
so next I expect you will assault my jan6th analogy
LOL yes war is so awesome , it's always justified one way or another when faced with a constant bombardment of propaganda demonizing the enemy de jour
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