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Wagner's Prigozhyn [Leader] Explains Why He Is Unable to Take Bakhmut
@WarTranslated ^ | 1/3/2023 | WarTranslated

Posted on 01/03/2023 1:27:59 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans

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To: Jumper

Please provide sources for this silly nonsense. The Russians need a war declaration before they can use 750,000 people? Any day now they’ll meet their initial goals from February? But they’ve already put in an initial 200,000 (couldn’t seal the deal) who were driven out of Kyiv, Kharkiv Oblast and Kherson, and now a 300,000 mobilized who we are told— not by Ukrainian sources, but by Russians— that 9 out of 10 are useless and that a second mobilization of 300,000 will be necessary in the near future just to stop a collapse of the front line.

But any day now, according to you, Russia is FINALLY going to declare war and something something will happen and blah blah blah nuclear war over Poland. LMAO.


21 posted on 01/03/2023 3:02:09 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: popdonnelly

When they started throwing prisoners and drunk conscripts into the firefight, it became obvious that their plan for victory is to trade a cubic meter of russian meat for every square meter of Ukrainian land.


22 posted on 01/03/2023 3:14:27 PM PST by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: Jumper

You are assigning a far higher level of control to Biden than is actually possible. Foggy Bottom and the DoD/CIA are running this shit show, not Dementia Joe. He’s just the puppet, and you know it.

The CIA/WEF warmongers have been waiting for and planning all of this for 9 years now, they just needed an empty suit in the White Hut.


23 posted on 01/03/2023 3:16:12 PM PST by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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To: marktwain

—”Hmmm. If they take it, sounds like a Pyrrhic victory. Looks like the Ukrainians are using Bakhmut to keep Russian forces pinned down, inflict casualties, and destroy Russian equipment.”

It does appear to be so...

With hard frozen ground they may be able to move armor in, but:
“Rochan Consulting, a firm that monitors the war, says that the urban terrain and Ukraine’s use of anti-tank squads has deterred Russia from employing tanks in the town, leaving infantry dangerously exposed.”

https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/12/06/russia-is-hurling-troops-at-the-tiny-ukrainian-town-of-bakhmut


24 posted on 01/03/2023 3:23:22 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Jumper

So the great and mighty Red Army can’t take one Ukrainian town becasue ‘too many houses’, but for sure next year they are gonna roll up the whole country all the way to the Polish border. Do I have that right?


25 posted on 01/03/2023 3:30:28 PM PST by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: ought-six

—”One of the most brutal slugfests in the history of warfare.”

“Shelling of Bakhmut began in May 2022, but the main assault towards the city began on 1 August after Russian forces advanced from the Popasna”

The Motherland Calls, something I’ve wanted to visit has 200 steps up the hill representing the 200 days of the Battle of Stalingrad.

Depending on how it is counted they are past the famous 200 days. 247 from May 2022, 155 from Aug 2022.
But not to worry, the Russians will adjust history to their liking, given the chance.

Russian logistics were not very good at Stalingrad and possibly improved since?


26 posted on 01/03/2023 3:44:45 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“Russian logistics were not very good at Stalingrad and possibly improved since?”

Germany’s logistics were much worse.


27 posted on 01/03/2023 4:02:49 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Why don’t they simply go around it?


28 posted on 01/03/2023 4:31:05 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

“Why don’t they simply go around it?”

What, go into enemy territory, beyond their supply lines? C’mon man! Their flanking maneuvers would be cutoff.

They have to go direct from their front line into urban environment for the cover it affords their supply line.

UKRs have cover and concealment in the urban environment. They will bleed out the orcs.


29 posted on 01/03/2023 4:40:29 PM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: ought-six

Battle of Stalingrad was indeed a slug fest with brutal house to house fighting and urban warfare. The Russian General created rings of defense much like what is discribed. .


30 posted on 01/03/2023 5:32:06 PM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: lump in the melting pot

One axis of attack which is essential for the Russians to stop the flow of western weapons and supplies. That axis of attack is sitting there in Belerous, waiting for the freeze that will allow passage over the marshes and soft soils on possible 6 different axis of attack. You will see.


31 posted on 01/03/2023 9:30:58 PM PST by Jumper ( )
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Have bothered to read what General Surovokin or Putin has been saying? Obviously, NO.

It takes too valuable time to address readily avilable information from the General’s statements.

Just one. Russia is still operating under the Special Operation with 160K soldiers. There 220K in Belerous which will attack along the Polish Uke boarder to seal it off so no weapons can come into Uke from Poland.

There 545K in Russia awaiting two things, no three. The government will end the SO. 2. The ground must be frozen and missile/artillery done all they can. 3. The government, like the USG, must authorize the use of the Army in Ukraine, which by the way if you followed the news, will take the Act of War. 1. Frozen Ground. 2. Suspend Sp Op. 3. Govt declaration of War allowing the Armed forces to give Ukraine a taste of Combined Arms, which the 160K did not.


32 posted on 01/03/2023 9:51:37 PM PST by Jumper ( )
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

An old friend of mine used to say, “When you are explaining, you are losing”’


33 posted on 01/04/2023 2:37:46 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dreams)
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To: Williams

You mean gay Nazi marriage right?

In before the Putin putas!


34 posted on 01/04/2023 7:43:11 AM PST by skepsel ("A cat is more intelligent than people believe, and can be taught any crime", Mark Twain.)
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