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Economic 'Category 5 storm' brewing in 2023, market expert warns.
Fox News Business ^ | 1.3.2023 | FOX Business Staff

Posted on 01/03/2023 9:28:37 AM PST by Carriage Hill

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To: Carriage Hill

Darn there goes my new boat. Marshall 22 catboat..


21 posted on 01/03/2023 10:33:19 AM PST by DEPcom (Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules)
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To: Bshaw; All

“Biden is an economic illiterate who signs budgets drafted by generational thieves.”

^^THIS^^

*BUMP*


22 posted on 01/03/2023 10:35:04 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Shady

We have a small savings account and our bank manager has been pestering me to put it into annuities, but I’m thinking more like a CD.


23 posted on 01/03/2023 10:35:53 AM PST by NicNacPattyWac (Main). )
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To: for-q-clinton

Gotcha.
We’re in agreement about BLS fudging numbers, as well as, the Feds being crooked.


24 posted on 01/03/2023 10:36:43 AM PST by EEGator
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To: DEPcom

We’re all going to suffer more, from it.


25 posted on 01/03/2023 10:55:44 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: rktman

“They gotta name it or it doesn’t count. Just sayin’.”

It’s just who they blame it on.

Putin’s market crash?
Trump’s market crash?

OH YEAH. The Republican house market crash!


26 posted on 01/03/2023 11:03:29 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Carriage Hill

“We’re all going to suffer more, from it.”

You are right: Trickle Down Economics.

I fear the future Economical Storm, so I stop buying big tickets items. Marshall Marine Corp starts laying off employees that build those custom boats.

Those same employees put off new car purchases.


27 posted on 01/03/2023 11:43:39 AM PST by DEPcom (Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules)
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To: DEPcom

No more Big Ticket items for me, either. Conserve the money.


28 posted on 01/03/2023 11:56:30 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill

Where the stock market goes in January so goes the rest of the year.

January 2022 for the markets was very volatile and ended in a loss. The rest of the year did the same.


29 posted on 01/03/2023 2:12:17 PM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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To: Carriage Hill

Commodities are going to do very well this year.


30 posted on 01/03/2023 2:12:56 PM PST by Tom Tetroxide
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To: Tom Tetroxide

Had I not moved almost everything back into cash, within each account, I might have lost it all.


31 posted on 01/03/2023 2:55:27 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill
2022 was worst year for the stock market since 2008 1871.

Fixed it for you.

The Financial Times reported that 2022 was the worst year for U.S. stocks and bonds since 1871. Bonds down 17%, stocks down 18%. Those are nominal numbers, and are not adjusted for inflation.

The Morgan Stanley Capital International (MSCI) World Index reported that $18 Trillion was lost globally by stocks and bonds in 2022. Again, nominal numbers, not adjusted for inflation.

Assuming that collective reporting by the governments of the world is even remotely accurate, the financial net worth of the world was $250 Trillion, global net wealth was $380 Trillion and the Gross World Product was $80 Trillion at the end of 2021.

So, in a single year, 27.5% of Gross World Product, 8.8% of the financial net worth of the world, and 5.8% of the world’s total wealth got annihilated.

Officially, the national debt of the United States is $31.5 Trillion with an additional $173.4 Trillion of unfunded liabilities, mostly for Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, etc. State and local governments are carrying an additional $3.5 Trillion in debt. To put this in perspective, the total government liabilities of the United States are equal to 84% of global financial net worth.

The rest of the governments of the world are carrying more than $63 Trillion of “official” debt, and a much larger, but unknown, total of unfunded financial liabilities.

Globally, the governments of the world “officially” consume 17% of GDP, and run deficits of 10% of GDP. The United States “officially” spends 36.9% of its GDP on government and runs deficits of 6% of GDP. To date this has been made possible by historically low interest rates. However inflation is driving increases in those interest rates, which will make the financing of even “official” government debt unaffordable for many nations, including the United States.

Nationally and globally, government debt and unfunded liabilities far exceed global wealth, and are growing faster than global wealth. It addition, much of what is on the balance sheets of global wealth are relatively illiquid assets. In the hands of the their current owners, they are probably productive, but if forced to liquidate, they would likely realize a small portion of their book value.

Again, all of the above is in nominal values, inflation has not been factored in.

I do not know if there is an “Economic Bomb Cyclone” coming, but things are going to get a lot worse. The single best thing the United States could do to turn this around would be to cut in half the total size of government at all levels, Federal, State, and Local, so that government ended up at under 20% of GDP.

However, the political will to do that is lacking as people want their “free” stuff.

Ultimately, TANSTAAFL, and the rapidly approaching reckoning will make the Great Depression, Weimar Republic, Venezuela, Haiti, and Zimbabwe look like Teddy Bear Picnics.

32 posted on 01/03/2023 3:13:24 PM PST by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous world.)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Great post!


33 posted on 01/03/2023 3:17:22 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill

Biden’s Trickle Down Poverty Plan! It’s working!


34 posted on 01/03/2023 3:19:52 PM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell..)
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To: NicNacPattyWac

“bank manager has been pestering me to put it into annuities”

Yeah—the bank manager probably gets a commission on the transaction.

Run away or get fleeced.


35 posted on 01/03/2023 3:22:08 PM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg

Exactly. I just keep saying no thanks; I’m positive they’re not doing this out of the goodness of their heart lol.


36 posted on 01/03/2023 4:31:14 PM PST by NicNacPattyWac (Main). )
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To: Carriage Hill

I cashed out an IRA a year ago and invested all of into upgrades in my house. Planning to stay here for at least another 15 years, so it is a good long term investment.


37 posted on 01/04/2023 6:22:12 AM PST by Texas resident (Who is running our country?)
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To: Texas resident

No IRA/ IRS penalty?


38 posted on 01/04/2023 9:44:42 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Chgogal

It sure is.


39 posted on 01/04/2023 9:45:47 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill

Not after you turn 59 1/2. I checked.


40 posted on 01/04/2023 10:53:45 AM PST by Texas resident (Who is running our country?)
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