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China admits its Covid deaths are 'huge' and 70% of Shanghai's 25m residents have been infected as Beijing threatens retaliation against Western nations over restrictions on air passengers
Daily Mail uK ^ | 03 Jan 2023 | By CHRIS JEWERS FOR MAILONLINE and AFP

Posted on 01/03/2023 3:25:27 AM PST by blueplum

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To: Fury

” what variant is predominant in PRC?”

the last article I read says it’s BF.7 - an omnicron variant that has pretty good immunity evasion against both vaccinated and acquired immunity.

It’s been around since 2021, but hasn’t really grabbed a foothold in the northern hem. Entered China allegedly thru Mongolia and has spread rapidly. BF.7 accounts for about 5% of the cases in the US.’

The US is focused on a different omnicron variant XBB.1.5 - now accounting for about 75% of the cases in the northeast region: https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/03/health/covid-variant-xbb-explainer/index.html


41 posted on 01/03/2023 6:17:32 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum

They don’t all die and they don’t stay sick forever and maybe it’s the Chinese Communist Party’s vaccine that’s doing this


42 posted on 01/03/2023 6:19:42 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: blueplum

It seems China is suffering from it’s own biological war fare mistake and now wants the rest of the world to suffer like it did with their first Covid-119 release.


43 posted on 01/03/2023 6:20:13 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Fury

Don’t a much larger percentage of Chinese people smoke?

This could be a contributing factor. Just like asthma or other respiratory issues make covid worse.


44 posted on 01/03/2023 6:52:54 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: blueplum

If 70% of the population is infected, why are we messing around with covid tests? There should be a global ban on all flights out of China until they are out of the woods. They started this whole pandemic thing and now, apparently, they are trying to resurrect it.


45 posted on 01/03/2023 6:56:22 AM PST by chuckee ( )
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To: blueplum

Hong Kong had a wave of Covid last February with 1,200,000 cases and about 9500 deaths. That’s about a 0.8% mortality rate.

During the summer, there were about 600,000 more cases but only another 2000 deaths, for a 0.3% mortality rate.

It seems likely that the CCP has data to substantiate that they will lose a few million people to Covid before vaccines and herd immunity take effect, but that they will mainly be elderly and sickly people.

They probably judge that this will be accepted by the people, since they were becoming very opposed to lockdowns and other public health measures.


46 posted on 01/03/2023 6:58:24 AM PST by FarCenter
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China has admitted their ‘death’ numbers are only those who die from covid pneumonia. They’re not counting sepsis, heart or renal failures.

Herd immunity works good against a stable virus or bacteria. One that’s constantly mutating, not so good, if achievable at all. Consider the flu - around every year for centuries, yet lots of people catch it every year because the flu strains keep changing


47 posted on 01/03/2023 7:17:55 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum

What goes around comes around.


48 posted on 01/03/2023 7:43:03 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Yes, exactly. Please continue to spread this truth.


49 posted on 01/03/2023 7:46:20 AM PST by Theophilus 7
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To: blueplum

I doubt that Covid will be as variable as the flu.

The introduction of new flu viruses from animal reservoirs such as swine and birds happens quite frequently.

New coronaviruses from bats and other hosts seem less frequent.


50 posted on 01/03/2023 7:57:45 AM PST by FarCenter
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Re: 9 - Guess I am not following. Many, many FReepers say that COVID-19 is no worse than the cold - so not sure what the issue is (for those FReepers).

I suppose it depends on what strain you contract. I had it in March and April of 2020 and it took me weeks to get over it and my lungs burned for months. It was definitely worse than any cold for me.

51 posted on 01/03/2023 8:17:00 AM PST by Dr. Marten (Non gratum anus rodentum)
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Alas, poor, flatfooted Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center hasn't as yet caught up with the exceedingly soaring surge.

See: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/china

Worldometer is even further flatfooted. Less than JHU.

See: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

So the question is one of "outbreaks" versus deaths. Time will tell, even though the Communists won't,

One also notes that Washington's IMHE projections show -- as they have for a couple of years now -- "tomorrows" being awful, but yesterday not so bad, Chinese style, excepting their site's statement "After December 16, 2022, IHME will pause its COVID-19 modeling for the foreseeable future." Who to believe?

See: https://covid19.healthdata.org/china?view=cumulative-deaths&tab=trend

52 posted on 01/03/2023 11:22:44 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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LOL. China killing itself with it’s own bioweapon. Karma sometimes hits back pretty hard and fast.


53 posted on 01/03/2023 12:52:04 PM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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