Posted on 01/02/2023 5:40:22 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
You could pose that rhetorical question after literally every setback Putin suffers in his inhumane war of aggression and conquest against Ukraine.
A Russian soldier stubs his toe against a rock? "How long before Putin declares the U.S. is waging a proxy war?!"
A Russian ammo dump is blown up, killing 600 newly conscripted Russian citizens who were recklessly billeted right next to it? "How long before Putin declares the U.S. is waging a proxy war?!"
Putin needlessly invaded Ukraine. Wars have consequences. At least Putin seems to understand that!
Regards,
Is the K in Kazan part of the initials for KGB? Sure smells like KGB disinformation operative.
Those were incredibly stupid analogies
You are absolutely right about that. And a desperate Putin is not good. He’s already said ALL options are on the table. Including nuclear
However, this 600 casualty number should be taken with a very large grain of salt ... A lot of Russian dead, but 600? That is either garbage or the luckiest shot of the war.
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Luck had nothing to do with it - mobniks need to be kept together or lose controls over them.
They were all housed in one building with artillery shells, rockets, and powder stored in the basement. There is nothing unusual about this for the modern Russian army. They’ve lost other much smaller groups this way. With this hit, its over 1,000 dead for the week by similar strikes.
The building was located only 20 miles from the front. When it was hit at one minute after midnight, every one was likely asleep. We don’t know how many rockets hit but a salvo of 6 could easily penetrate to the basement, striking the powder and rockets.
Russian Mil bloggers also say the number of dead is in the hundreds. There would have been no warning, first because Russia withdrew its air defenses to Moscow-St Petersburg, and second, because of the very short distance from the front.
Pile 600-700 people into one building with ammo stored underneath a short distance from the front and you get a lot of dead in one go.
Do I understand correctly that the loss was not on the battlefield but because the building they were using as a barracks was hit by missiles??
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20 miles behind the line of contact is on the battlefield today. Hit by HIMARS rockets.
the Russians lost almost two battalions
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Russian battalions, prior to the war, were of two types one having ~540 and the other ~460.
The Russian leadership are so careless of their own soldiers that they let them sleep right next to massive ammunition storages!
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Not next to, but above.
I heard it was 63.
Yes, Russian news outlets officially admitted “63” Russian soldiers were killed in that Ukrainian attack, THAT tells us something big happened. Kremlin can’t hide that attack, the only thing they can do is as usual to minimize the number of dead. The Kremlin propaganda machine and all Russian news-outlets works like CNN. They follow the Russian Government orders.
Anyway, Russia’s desperate attempt to PR damage control in minimizing the massacre is at full display. But this morning the Russian people is talking about what happened all over Russia, its turning into a national scandal. Some Russian military leaders heads will fall for this.
Since Russia itself is admitting to “63” dead soldiers... you can multiply that number many times to get closer to the real (unfiltered) amount.
Telegram messages in-between Russians soldiers and families talk about hundreds of death, plus hundreds of injured.
How can the Russian army leadership be so careless about their own soldiers, by placing them atop of a huge ammunition storage? What army in the world does such a crazy thing?
Watching a Putin speech, asleep, new years party - all the same - they are dead or worse.
2 days, i hear
I remember the Beirut bombing, and it was not because some stupid military beaurocrat set 600 or 700 troups above a huge store of ammo. It may have been because no one imagined that a big truck full of explosive material could be placed near enough to the building to cause massive damage. Kind of like the Oklahoma bombing. Anywhere large numbers of people gather or are gathered can be a target. Doing something really stupid like placing large numbers of soldiers above large amounts of ammo in a war zone is beyond stupid. No doubt one or more people will pay the price.
Yesterday Russia had raised the dead figure to 89. A lot of digging no doubt is still being done. Eyes in town apparently have reported seeing trucks full of bodies in transport. The HIMARS (4) were sent by Ukraine to time with Putin’s New Year’s speech and celebrations. Russia reports 2 were blocked, and apparently 1 or more set off the stored ammo which disintegrated a large 3 story technical school.
Something I discovered while looking at the Beirut situation years ago, was that we also had people killed shortly thereafter in Kuwait in a similar manner. If I remember correctly, the French also had several dozen killed that way in Beirut either immediately before or after our troops were killed there. More recently Beirut has suffered a disasterous explosion, I think fertilizer, killing around 3,000 people and destroying a large area of buildings. I pity the Lebanese.
Thank you gleeaikin,
It’s always cute when pro-KGB activists fabricate higher numbers of Ukranian casualties than the Kremlin claims. Why not say 10,000 daily, while you are at it?
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