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To: Mr Rogers

> “And just how do you know that.”

It was politely explained to you that the procedures by the clerks do not dead-list a cert application that they intend to send over to conference.

Dead-list cert applications are handled at the Clerk level, they are never sent to the Justices.

The remaining listed applications are sent for review by all 9 Justices for voting which applications will go forward and which will be denied. Brunson will be reviewed this coming January 6.

This is the last piece of polite information you’re getting from me. No one needs your sh*tty attitude on any thread.


61 posted on 12/30/2022 1:35:03 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage

“Dead-list cert applications are handled at the Clerk level, they are never sent to the Justices.”

No one is told the recommendations of the law clerks, and different justices get different recommendations. You have NO IDEA what the clerks have recommended, except this:

The US Government hasn’t bothered to reply to the case.

And if you read the amicus briefs, the embarrassingly bad arguments would be obvious:

Their arguement:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-380/243739/20221027152243533_20221027-152110-95757954-00007015.pdf

Amicus brief from “New California”:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-380/251021/20221228220520289_NCS51%20Amicus%20Brief_2022-12-28.pdf

“This movement...expects to stand up as a state in the first quarter of 2024 by submitting a resolution of statehood to the United States Congress...”

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-380/251157/20221230141307357_NNS%20Amicus%20Brief_2022-12-29.pdf

You think ANYONE will give that garbage serious consideration?


65 posted on 12/30/2022 4:11:21 PM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Hostage

Obviously, you don’t care what the truth is on this topic of Supreme Court processes so I’m going to just provide some links for the non-lazy who actually seek the truth to find out for themselves what’s really up. I’m dismayed about many other comments on this thread where they simply don’t know what they are talking about, they are purposely lying, or they are just too lazy.

1. Go to this link to see the links to the recent orders of the Court - particularly the CERTIORARI Granted and CERTIORARI Denied and make a random sample of those Granted and those Denied.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/ordersofthecourt/22

2. With the docket numbers you can look up the docket history and see the patterns.

For example, the last Denied one here is 22-5750
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/121222zor_1qm1.pdf
It’s link is:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-5750.html
You can search for it using the docket numbers here.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docket.aspx

3. In the docket documents you will notice a pattern on how the Solicitor General responds. This happens in most cases.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-5750/242640/20221006175731786_Waiver%20Letter%20-%2022-5750.pdf

“The Government hereby waives its right to file a response to the petition in this case, unless requested to do so by the Court.”

They did this in the Brunson case (and many others) with the exact same verbiage.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-380.html
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-380/247457/20221123155305329_Waiver%20Letter%20-%2022-0380.pdf

“The Government hereby waives its right to file a response to the petition in this case, unless requested to do so by the Court.”

4. Now here is an example of a docket that was granted. Note the length and the response of the Solicitor General.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/21-1576.html

5. Note this pending case that was Granted after the Solicitor General waived their right to respond. Now some lazy dummy reading this will say “aha the same thing will happen with the Brunsons” but the truth is that they aren’t looking at the facts completely.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-49.html

Jul 22 2022 Waiver of right of respondent United States to respond filed.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-49/230712/20220722173546293_Waiver%20Letter%20-%2022-0049.pdf

“The Government hereby waives its right to file a response to the petition in this case, unless requested to do so by the Court.”

Jul 27 2022 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of 9/28/2022.
Jul 29 2022 Response Requested. (Due August 29, 2022)

One of the Justices obviously wanted to discuss the case. 2 Motions to extend the time to file a response were made and both were granted. Finally, we got this from the Solicitor General office.

Oct 28 2022 Brief of respondent United States in opposition filed.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-49/244252/20221028132500285_22-49%20Lora%20Opp.pdf

The Petitioner did a reply. The Petition was distributed for the 12/02 conference. Apparently, the Justices didn’t get it (though they denied certs on others) and then they got to it on December 9th and granted cert.

Nov 15 2022 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of 12/2/2022.
Dec 05 2022 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of 12/9/2022.
Dec 09 2022 Petition GRANTED.

Link to ones on the 12/02 lists for the Conference. Around 100 were Denied. Most of them were likely dead listed and you can probably see this for yourself when they are missing the “Response Requested” line in case the respondents decided to initially not respond.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/120522zor_d1of.pdf


66 posted on 12/30/2022 10:09:07 PM PST by Degaston (no autocrats please)
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