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From Belarus without much love: Russia's exaggerated offensive aspirations
MSN ^ | 12 19 | Tom Rogan

Posted on 12/20/2022 11:23:04 AM PST by dennisw

Concerns over a new multi-front Russian offensive in Ukraine are legitimate but exaggerated.

Lukashenko is deeply hesitant to participate in Putin's war. The dictator has so far resisted significant pressure from Putin to join. Lukashenko recognizes the battlefield crisis facing Russia and wants to avoid further Western sanctions against his struggling country's economy.

Even if he is an odd character, Lukashenko is not stupid. He knows that the war unpopular in Belarus, and the Belorussian military is relatively small. If the Belorussian military enters the war and suffers major losses, Lukashenko risks losing his means of controlling restive population. That opens the door to a successful new revolution. Even as Putin ups the pressure, probably with personal threats, Lukashenko likely views joining the war as an equally existential risk.

Putin described the Monday meeting as "very productive" and Lukashenko made similar comments. But only on Friday did Lukashenko offer a strident rebuke of the suggestion that he would allow Belarus to become a formally subordinated vassal of Putin's greater union state agenda. Lukashenko observed "despite all the difficulties, if the leadership of the Russian Federation wants to build relations with the sovereign and independent state of Belarus, if Russia perceives us as a sovereign and independent state...we are ready to build such relationships. We must always proceed from the fact that we are a sovereign and independent state." This is not the language of a leader cowed by Putin.

Lukashenko's strategy towards Russia appears to remain centered in a calibrated effort to maintain critical economic ties with Russia by doing just enough to keep Putin from pushing him out of power. Lukashenko also likely still bets that Putin's deepening challenge in Ukraine and concern over a Western government taking power in Belarus mean that Russia won't risk overthrowing him.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: notourwar; tomrogan

1 posted on 12/20/2022 11:23:04 AM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Belarus is like East Germany in 1989.


2 posted on 12/20/2022 11:25:11 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: dennisw

May Belarus continue to ignore putin’s requests.

May they act in the best interest of their citizens


3 posted on 12/20/2022 11:26:44 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: dennisw

50 active and retired CIA analysts have said so.


4 posted on 12/20/2022 11:29:24 AM PST by PGR88
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To: dennisw

“Even if he is an odd character, Lukashenko is not stupid.”

Lukashenko has survived for 30 years by acting like a harmless buffoon.

But he has played Putin like a country fiddle for years now.


5 posted on 12/20/2022 11:34:39 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: dennisw

Belarus will likely join the Russian Federation in 2023, rendering Western soyboi threats to depose Luka meaningless while at the same giving Russia a strategic advantage over Ukraine (and Poland).


6 posted on 12/20/2022 11:52:11 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: mac_truck

You seem happy about that.


7 posted on 12/20/2022 12:31:27 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: dennisw
If Lukaschenko were smart, he'd pull an "Italy" and change sides, mid-stream.

Regards,

8 posted on 12/20/2022 1:59:29 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: ansel12
Lol...this you?


9 posted on 12/20/2022 2:11:30 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: mac_truck

It appears you are anti-American, you people have really gone dark.


10 posted on 12/20/2022 2:17:55 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: dennisw

Putin is bringing Belarus military up to Russian standards (sic) for the expected huge Western attack on Belarus, whose military is being trained to launch tactical nukes from is fighter jets.

This expected battle will happen on Belarus soil and far from Moscow and the southern Urals. Belarus troops are expected to die for Russia since they are considered Russians by Putin.


11 posted on 12/20/2022 2:57:01 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: ansel12
FYI...


12 posted on 12/20/2022 3:07:53 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: mac_truck

“”giving Russia a strategic advantage over Ukraine (and Poland).””

You should share your hopes with our V Corps GIs that Trump stationed in Poland, I don’t think they share your anti-Americanism.


13 posted on 12/20/2022 3:12:45 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12

The American people are firmly opposed to war and want to live peacefully in this world, but the corrupt corporate/political/media elites don’t care...and frankly brainwashed idiots like you are part of the problem.

Where did you learn to question someone’s patriotism whenever they don’t parrot the elite’s endless war narrative?

Who taught you that loathsome behavior?


14 posted on 12/20/2022 4:00:24 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: mac_truck

Let our troops know your feelings about the enemy they face in Europe, I don’t think they will call you patriotic to America, but they will call you a traitor that supports the enemy they face.

Let them know that you support the enemy gaining a “strategic advantage” over them at their Poland headquarters.


15 posted on 12/20/2022 4:15:15 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: ansel12
Lol...your claiming to speak for the entire V Corp now?

What a deceitful weasel...reminds me of this guy.

>

16 posted on 12/20/2022 5:22:11 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: mac_truck

You are really far gone.


17 posted on 12/20/2022 5:52:41 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: dennisw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5EpNNwbRag

Update on Russian military operations in Ukraine for December 21, 2022:

- Pentagon admits Russia is gaining ground in Bakhmut; - Zelensky visit to Bakhmut mirrors similar visit to Lysychansk before it fell to Russian forces;
- Western media admits Russia has Ukraine outgunned 6 to 1 in Bakhmut;
- Claims that Russian losses are as significant as catastrophic toll Ukraine is suffering in Bakhmut does not reflect reality if Russia outguns Ukraine significantly;
- Bakhmut is a significant transportation hub and a crucial fortified position along one of Ukraine's last major defensive lines in the east;
- The fall of Bakhmut may lead to a similar breakthrough like Popasna;
- Russian forces appear interested in destroying Ukraine's military at Bakhmut more than taking the city itself;

18 posted on 12/21/2022 8:08:43 AM PST by Kazan
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