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To: Right_Wing_Madman
I think the Russians are slow-playing the Ukraine war in part to further bleed the United States.

I saw a photo the other day nice piles of dead Russians, all packed on top of each other, and other photos of Russian tanks fleeing from HIMARS bombardment... in vain.

It takes a special type of dumb to imagine that this is 5 dimensional chess to "bleed the United States" by Russia, a country with a GDP maybe around the size of Illinois PRE-sanctioned.

11 posted on 12/19/2022 6:44:36 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

And how dumb you gotta be to believe bidens lies?


17 posted on 12/19/2022 6:47:55 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
It takes a special type of dumb to imagine that this is 5 dimensional chess to "bleed the United States" by Russia, a country with a GDP maybe around the size of Illinois

Illinois is embarrassing the United States right now. It's so pathetic.

24 posted on 12/19/2022 6:52:23 AM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; Chunga85

I saw a photo the other day nice piles of dead Russians, all packed on top of each other, and other photos of Russian tanks fleeing from HIMARS bombardment... in vain.

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Article:

“The mainstream media and the Biden administration insist ad nauseam that Ukraine is winning against Russia. But the facts on the ground do not fit the narrative and the administration and media know it. The war hawks know their cynical Ukraine policy has not succeeded in driving Russia out of Ukraine. Tragically, the Ukrainians are the ones who suffer the immense cost of this foreign policy failure. Their nation is ruined for the sake and at the instigation of the globalist American empire.”

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From another article:

The tentacles of the Military Industrial Complex run very deep in Washington

“In return, these recipients campaign for wars, perhaps via op-eds in ‘reputed’ newspapers or during TV appearances or speeches. Finally, they vote to approve billions in ‘aid.’

The contracts are awarded and billions of taxpayer’s funds flow away from the D.C. Treasury into the accounts of favored arms dealers.

Last week, the Ukrainian Embassy in D.C. hosted a reception to commemorate the 31st anniversary of Ukraine’s armed services.

Jonathan Guyer, who covers foreign policy for Vox, revealed that the invitation to the event had logos of arms dealers such as Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Pratt & Whitney, and Northrop Grumman.”

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/12/the_tentacles_of_the_military_industrial_complex_run_very_deep_in_washington.html
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From another relevant article:

Russia Says NATO Nations Could Be ‘Legitimate Military Targets’

“In a lengthy statement on his Telegram channel, Medvedev, who is deputy chairman of Russia’s Security Council, questioned whether the delivery of weapons to Ukraine by NATO nations could be viewed as an attack on his country.

“Today...the main question is whether the hybrid war de facto declared on our country by NATO can be considered to be the alliance’s entry into war with Russia? Is it possible to view the delivery of a large volume of weapons to Ukraine as an attack on Russia?” he wrote.

“The leaders of NATO countries keep unanimously squawking that their countries and the entire bloc are not at war with Russia,” Medvedev continued. “Yet, everyone is well aware that this is not the case.”

He noted that in light of this, the question arises whether NATO allies are legitimate military targets.

According to “the named rules of war,” he said, the armed forces of other countries “that have officially entered the war, which are allies of the enemy country, and the objects located on their territory,” are considered legitimate military targets.

Medvedev said other legitimate military targets include the military-political leadership of the enemy country and any enemy troops (legal combatants and illegal combatants) who have not been officially withdrawn from among its armed forces.

He said this includes any of the enemy’s military and auxiliary equipment, any objects related to military infrastructure as well as to civilian infrastructure which facilitates achieving military goals (bridges, transport stations, roads, energy facilities, plants and workshops that at least partially fulfill military contracts, and so on).

The Kremlin has repeatedly accused NATO allies of becoming involved in the conflict by sending Ukraine weapons, providing its troops with training, and assisting with military intelligence.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-nato-nations-could-be-legitimate-military-targets/ar-AA15mcAj

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Chunga85 has it right in post #7 above:

“If we get out butts nuked off we’ve got it coming.”


52 posted on 12/19/2022 7:12:20 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
It takes a special type of dumb to imagine that this is 5 dimensional chess to "bleed the United States" by Russia, a country with a GDP maybe around the size of Illinois PRE-sanctioned.

yeah, GDP matters! That’s why a bunch of goat humping, boy loving , cavemen in Afghanistan kicked our ass for 20 years and made us leave. Right? The GDP of Afghanistan or Vietnam or North Korea really mattered when we fought them. Maybe it was their sophisticated weapons systems and logistics?

but the same geniuses are telling us Russians are losing. We have soldiers on food stamps, disabled and disfigured veterans begging for money on television and military housing that will give troops cancer and families illnesss due to contamination and mold…… but we have BILLIONS OF DOLLARS for Ukrainian armed forces, government salaries and rebuilding their infrastructure.

when I see or hear any of “our” oligarchs in DC speak or their supporters , I wish they’d grab a big cup of “shut the f&ck up” and just move along.

80 posted on 12/19/2022 7:32:36 AM PST by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitantes)
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