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Emails Show CDC Removed Defensive Gun Use Stats After Gun-Control Advocates Pressured Officials in Private Meeting
The Reload ^ | December 15, 2022 | Stephen Gutowski

Posted on 12/16/2022 10:42:52 AM PST by Twotone

The lobbying campaign spanned months and culminated with a private meeting between CDC officials and three advocates last summer, a collection of emails obtained by The Reload show. Introductions from the White House and Senator Dick Durbin’s (D., Ill.) office helped the advocates reach top officials at the agency after their initial attempt to reach out went unanswered. The advocates focused their complaints on the CDC’s description of its review of studies that estimated defensive gun uses (DGU) happen between 60,000 and 2.5 million times per year in the United States–attacking criminologist Gary Kleck’s work establishing the top end of the range.

“[T]hat 2.5 Million number needs to be killed, buried, dug up, killed again and buried again,” Mark Bryant, one of the attendees, wrote to CDC officials after their meeting. “It is highly misleading, is used out of context and I honestly believe it has zero value – even as an outlier point in honest DGU discussions.”

Bryant, who runs the Gun Violence Archive (GVA), argued Kleck’s estimate has been damaging to the political prospects of passing new gun restrictions and should be eliminated from the CDC’s website.

“And while that very small study by Gary Kleck has been debunked repeatedly by everyone from all sides of this issue [even Kleck] it still remains canon by gun rights folks and their supporting politicians and is used as a blunt instrument against gun safety regulations every time there is a state or federal level hearing,” he wrote in the same email. “Put simply, in the time that study has been published as ‘a CDC Study’ gun violence prevention policy has ground to a halt, in no small part because of the misinformation that small study provided.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; cdc; gunstats

1 posted on 12/16/2022 10:42:52 AM PST by Twotone
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To: Twotone

More commentary here:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4116726/posts

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2 posted on 12/16/2022 10:54:08 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: Twotone
And while that very small study by Gary Kleck has been debunked repeatedly...

Has it? Usually, in this context, debunked means proven true.

3 posted on 12/16/2022 11:03:32 AM PST by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Twotone

What do weapon have to do with disease? The CDC is totally political and fails at its primary mission. The CDC needs to be shuttered and every employee banned from working in government at any level. There needs to be consequences.


4 posted on 12/16/2022 11:06:15 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (Stupidly is a moral problem, not an intellectual problem. )
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To: MileHi

Apparently Kleck himself said there were problems with it. But I remember a story that the FBI had done its OWN study years ago & came to the conclusion that there were at minimum a million defensive gun uses each year.


5 posted on 12/16/2022 11:06:51 AM PST by Twotone
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Of course…cdc=commie directed censorship…total joke of an agency with an agenda…like most of them…


6 posted on 12/16/2022 11:07:50 AM PST by TnTnTn
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To: Twotone

I’d say a million defensive gun uses each year is very plausible.


7 posted on 12/16/2022 11:11:06 AM PST by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Twotone
Typical Maoist Democrat methodology. Deny and censor all information that would counter their ideological aims.
The number of positive encounters should be included, how else can honest conclusions and laws be made.
8 posted on 12/16/2022 12:06:31 PM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Twotone

67,000 DGU annually between 2007-2011 cf. “Guns and Crime: The Data Don’t Lie”, Mark Gius · 2016 3 citations.

cf. “Stopping Power: Why 70 Million Americans Own Guns. Neil Shulman · 1994, p.38: 645,000 DGU every year.

cf. “Targeting Guns: Firearms and Their Control”, books.google.com › books
Gary Kleck · 2017 = Offensive handgun use [IOGU] in 1993 was 800,000; evidence indicates that defensive gun use [DGU] was 3 to 5 times higher than OGU. [ search googlebooks “defensive gun statistics”-— 15 pages cited in this book]...NCVS data DGU figures [82,000per year] can be found on pp.7-8, “Gun Control Legislation”, Krouse, Wm., 2010, Congressional Research Service...


9 posted on 12/16/2022 1:21:50 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (t)
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So the argument is that Kleck’s earlier estimate is LOW?


10 posted on 12/20/2022 9:41:15 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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