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Patriot Missile-Defense Systems Would Be Legitimate Target, Kremlin Says
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Posted on 12/14/2022 5:00:03 PM PST by dennisw

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To: lump in the melting pot

yes, now vs. later at a time chosen by the US, aimed at crimea most likely.

i realize many people want to reduce this to a comic book event but there are very complex trends and actions working themselves out over years that led to this.


41 posted on 12/14/2022 7:47:39 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Boogieman

42 posted on 12/14/2022 7:53:35 PM PST by cranked
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To: dennisw

43 posted on 12/14/2022 7:54:22 PM PST by cranked
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To: davidb56
a 3 million dollar missile per shot, to shoot down a 20 thousand dollar drone.

Highly effective if the object of the exercise is not to shoot down a $20K drone, but to transfer $3M from the taxpayer to the MIC.

44 posted on 12/14/2022 8:13:14 PM PST by woodpusher
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To: smokingfrog

Indeed, that would be excellent work for some of the Ukrainian refugees in Poland, etc.


45 posted on 12/14/2022 9:31:01 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Sunsong

Liking your pro-Ukie recent commentary. I will always be mystified by American conservatives cheering on the Russkies. Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave.


46 posted on 12/14/2022 9:39:18 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: EEGator

How many military conflicts have we engaged without Congress declaring war?


I believe the last time Congress declared war was in April, 1942 against Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania. So to answer your question, too many for me to count.

However, Congress has voted approval of warlike actions several times since then. Even some dems are going to have a problem if FJB puts American boots on the ground in Ukraine.


47 posted on 12/14/2022 9:49:20 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Not missing it at all; you put yourself in the middle of a war with a weapons system, you should expect to be targeted and killed.

WHY DO US TROOPS HAVE TO TRAIN UKRAINIANS IN UKRAIN, WHY NOT NEVADA; lots of missile ranges there.


48 posted on 12/14/2022 9:56:14 PM PST by 5th MEB
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To: jpp113

Tough sh!t, then let them die!

NO AMERICAN BLOOD FOR UKRAINIAN CORRUPTION!!!!


49 posted on 12/14/2022 9:58:23 PM PST by 5th MEB
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To: dennisw

bttt


50 posted on 12/14/2022 10:05:33 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: lump in the melting pot

Nope; Putin knew that SENILE/BRAINDEAD BIDEN was a weak, corrupt, stupid, feckless, senile, worthless pile of shit and decided he would rather do it now than wait for a REAL PRESIDENT to be elected (if ever again)!

As the old saying goes “STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT”.


51 posted on 12/14/2022 10:08:39 PM PST by 5th MEB
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To: dennisw

‘Patriot missiles are made in America and fail everywhere’
https://www.yjc.news/en/news/21057/patriot-missiles-are-made-in-america-and-fail-everywhere


52 posted on 12/14/2022 11:07:36 PM PST by cranked
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To: 5th MEB

So what does it say about the “2nd army in the world” that when it invaded a country which is led by a “homosexual jewish nazi” (you side’s characterization of Zelensky) and backed by a country led by “weak, corrupt, stupid, feckless, senile, worthless pile of shit” Biden (this is where you and I mostly agree), it’s getting chewed to bits? If putin is such a master strategist, why is his blyatskrieg taking years not weeks, why did russia have to mobilize 300,000 additional packets of cannon meat (with an equal number of russian men fleeing the country to avoid conscription), why is his Black Sea flagship sunk by a country with no navy, etc.?

Russia had Europe addicted to its oil and gas, plenty of German and French politicians in its pocket, and the world scared of its military. Now the Nordstream pipelines are scrap metal at the bottom of the Baltic, Finland with its 1,350-kilometer land border with russia has joined NATO, and Turkey has emerged as the regional heavyweight. Any links of ‘slavic unity’ between Ukraine and russia are permanently severed. Ukraine will be integrated into the EU, and probably into NATO as well. Russia is facing at least a generation of sanctions and reparations before it will fully rejoin the world community. Great victory, da?

Lastly, why are you shouting at everyone in this thread? Tabbing the Caps-lock key only makes your arguments sound even more unhinged.


53 posted on 12/15/2022 4:45:51 AM PST by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: amnestynone

Three cheers for nuclear world war. We need another global crisis for global reset. Crisis is a terrible thing to waste


54 posted on 12/15/2022 5:13:48 AM PST by kp2hot
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To: lump in the melting pot

What Russia-Ukraine war has proven is that era of conventional boot-on-the-ground warfare is over.

Technology has made it obsolete and unwinnable.

America learnt it in Vietnam and Afghanistan.

If this war is dragged out, it will likely end up as nuclear war. May be that is the end game of neo-cons.

Those who cheer it will own it


55 posted on 12/15/2022 5:32:35 AM PST by kp2hot
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To: 5th MEB

Because we want our people killed to drag us into the war, or at least gain more support from us towards Ukraine.
People in charge, the world over, are complete trash.


56 posted on 12/15/2022 5:41:03 AM PST by EEGator
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To: kp2hot

The only people cheering for nuclear war are putin’s propagandists (Solovyev, Simonyan, etc.)


57 posted on 12/15/2022 5:46:46 AM PST by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Kaiser Wilhem told Woodrow Wilson: “If you keep shipping arms to the allies on big ships like the Luisitania, Germany may decide to sink some of those big ships. They would be legitimate targets.”


Yeah, that worked out great for the Kaiser.


58 posted on 12/15/2022 7:41:26 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: lump in the melting pot
It was the same choice that JFK had regarding nuclear missiles in Cuba.   President Putin had a Hobson's choice.
59 posted on 12/15/2022 8:18:16 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister
Ukraine was never any threat to russia (other than showing ordinary russians it was possible for a slavic people to live in a normal country and not under a kleptocracy). Your comparison is invalid. Hitler's annexation of the Sudetenland is more apt. Or in pedestrian terms, "Ukraine's skirt was so short, russia was forced to rape her..."
60 posted on 12/15/2022 8:27:17 AM PST by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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