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To: Coronal

Not true. You need to read into the Bill.

Here is a comment from the Heritage Foundation concerning this bill: Don’t be fooled by the left’s messaging:

This bill is no exception to the left’s agenda. It too is just another radical policy being peddled by progressives.
Despite its name, the bill isn’t about marriage or respect at all. It’s about imposing the radical left’s sexual ideology as state orthodoxy.

Final passage would mean states no longer are allowed to define and recognize marriage as a legal union between a man and a woman. Instead, they would be forced to recognize any union between two individuals, regardless of sex, as marriage.

Even more radical, the bill would require federal recognition of polygamy if just one state requires it.
By radically redefining marriage and eviscerating states’ rights, the bill would transform matters of disagreement—even on the basis of deeply and sincerely held religious belief—into discrimination.

Those who refuse to submit—whether states, government officials, or any the U.S. attorney general deems to be “acting under the color of State law”—would be punished for their beliefs.

Despite what advocates might say, similar laws elsewhere have been weaponized to punish dissenters. As they have done with dissenters before, radical leftists would use this law to ensure yet a more total compliance with their ideology.

Ultimately, enactment of HR 8404 would destabilize essential pillars of American society: family and religion.[1]

https://newswithviews.com/democrats-respect-for-marriage-act-scam/


34 posted on 12/13/2022 2:09:06 PM PST by afchief
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To: afchief

From the text of the bill:

(b) Goods Or Services.—Consistent with the First Amendment to the Constitution, nonprofit religious organizations, including churches, mosques, synagogues, temples, nondenominational ministries, interdenominational and ecumenical organizations, mission organizations, faith-based social agencies, religious educational institutions, and nonprofit entities whose principal purpose is the study, practice, or advancement of religion, and any employee of such an organization, shall not be required to provide services, accommodations, advantages, facilities, goods, or privileges for the solemnization or celebration of a marriage. Any refusal under this subsection to provide such services, accommodations, advantages, facilities, goods, or privileges shall not create any civil claim or cause of action.

Churches and pastors are not required to perform marriage ceremonies or other services which go against their teachings. That was what was asked by the question to which I was responding.


43 posted on 12/13/2022 2:29:16 PM PST by Coronal
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To: afchief

There is no such thing as same-sex “marriage”. Marriage is the Union of a man and woman to bring forth children from the sexual act to populate the world. Two men or two women can’t create children. Two men engaging in the perversion of anal sex can not produce a child. Same thing goes for two women, Both have Vaginas. So once again marriage is about bringing children into the world. Two people of the opposite sex are necessary. Biology 100. This country has has sank into the depths of sexual perversion and only God can straighten it out and He will.


59 posted on 12/13/2022 3:41:33 PM PST by NKP_Vet (.)
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To: afchief
‘Those who refuse to submit—whether states, government officials, or any the U.S. attorney general deems to be “acting under the color of State law”—would be punished for their beliefs’

Secession it is, then
70 posted on 12/13/2022 6:30:32 PM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: afchief

Nothing you posted mentions churches or pastors at all, just “states, government officials, or any the U.S. attorney general deems to be ‘acting under the color of State law’”. Coronal’s right: there’s nothing in this bill that forces churches to do anything against their beliefs. Interracial marriage has been legal at the federal level for 55 years now. How many churches or pastors have been punished for refusing to marry interracial couples (and in the 60’s there still would have been plenty)? I’d guess around 0.


92 posted on 12/16/2022 6:09:49 PM PST by FormerFRLurker
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